<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Is anyone on the list aware of any Quad videotape of the below-mentioned program?</div><div><br></div><div>This link indcates the program aired on January 19, 1957, three days after NBC was reported to have begun using Ampex VRX-1000s for Time Zone Delay in Burbank.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Saturday-Color-Carnival-airdate-January/dp/B005C1DE1Y">http://www.amazon.com/Saturday-Color-Carnival-airdate-January/dp/B005C1DE1Y</a></div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="font-size: 17px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3" style="font-size: 17px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 15px; ">Ted</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">Ted Langdell</span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">Secretary</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">Skype: <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>TedLangdell</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">e-mail:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><a href="mailto:ted@quadvideotapegroup.com">ted@quadvideotapegroup.com</a></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><br></font></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><div>On Dec 30, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Jeffrey J Martin wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br><div dir="ltr">That clip is from Kovacs' episode of "Saturday Color Carnival," January 1957. The whole show is included in the recent Kovacs DVD set. Never having seen a lenticular kine, I can't say by looking at it whether it's an actual color kine or not. But UCLA Film & Television Archive holds what it describes as a 16mm color kine of the show, which may be the source. Info pasted below.<div>
<br></div><div>I'd love to see this thread revived. If Kodacolor can be digitized, digitizing a lenticular kine should be feasible, too.</div><div><br>Jeff Martin</div><div>Chicago, IL</div><div><br></div><div><br><div>
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<th nowrap="" align="RIGHT" valign="TOP" style="padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;margin:0px">Location:</th><td style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px">
Non-circulating SRLF archival copy</td></tr><tr style="padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;margin:0px"><th nowrap="" align="RIGHT" valign="TOP" style="padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;margin:0px">Inventory Number:</th><td dir="ltr" style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px">
T3167</td></tr><tr style="padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;margin:0px"><th nowrap="" align="RIGHT" valign="TOP" style="padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;margin:0px">Collection:</th><td dir="ltr" style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px">
TV Television Collection</td></tr><tr style="padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;margin:0px"><th nowrap="" align="RIGHT" valign="TOP" style="padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;margin:0px">Format:</th><td dir="ltr" style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px">
1 reel of 1 (29 min., 52 sec.) (ca. 1200 ft.) : opt sd., col. ; 16 mm. safety print.</td></tr><tr style="padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;margin:0px"><th nowrap="" align="RIGHT" valign="TOP" style="padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;margin:0px">
Notes:</th><td dir="ltr" style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px">Reserved for preservation.</td></tr><tr style="padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;margin:0px">
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NOTES: "F2110." Copy added from inventory record without viewing or inspection. LOCATION: A2-74-3.</td></tr><tr style="padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;margin:0px"><td style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px">
</td><td dir="ltr" style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px">Added copy, November 18, 1987, my; rev. April 15, 2005, my; rev. March 9, 2011, my.</td>
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Cc: <br>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 09:15:46 -0800<br>Subject: Re: [QuadList] Reviving the Lenticular Kinescope Thread<br><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Hi, Richard,</div><div><br></div><div>Would be interested in learning more about your research that tells you that the clip is NOT a kinescope, particularly an NBC/Kodak lenticular kinescope</div>
<div><br></div><div>What did you learn about that clip?</div><div><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div>Looking more closely at the YouTube clip there are videotape dropouts observable, and no indication of film dirt or gate weave or vertical movement that can't be attributed to camera movement.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Also, it would appear that NBC Burbank had Ampex VR-1000X machines in hand by Dec. 14, 1956 and had begun Time Zone Delay by Jan. 15, 1957. </div><div><br></div><div>According to television historian Albert Abramson, RCA demonstrated color using a Quad in August, 1957, using what appeared to Charles Ginsburg to be parts of the third VRX-1000 NBC had received.</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><br></div></blockquote><div>For latecomers to the thread:</div><div><br></div><div>Learn more on the NBC/Kodak Lenticular Kinescope process and Quad Videotape introduction timeline here:</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><h1 dir="ltr" style="display:block;font-size:14px;font-weight:bold;margin:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The History of Television, 1942 to 2000</h1>
</div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span style="margin-left:2px;font-size:14px">By Albert Abramson</span></span></div>
<div>Page 74</div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:10px"><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=TOMOmmrvwCcC&pg=PA74&lpg=PA74&dq=NBC+Lenticular+Color+kinescope&source=bl&ots=WvBHH8p3rs&sig=1jIZsDs5O6EE4-AxIlk5kfHY0xs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fJ7BUrDyGIX6oAS8loHwBA&ved=0CHYQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=NBC%20Lenticular%20Color%20kinescope&f=false" target="_blank">http://books.google.com/books?id=TOMOmmrvwCcC&pg=PA74&lpg=PA74&dq=NBC+Lenticular+Color+kinescope&source=bl&ots=WvBHH8p3rs&sig=1jIZsDs5O6EE4-AxIlk5kfHY0xs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fJ7BUrDyGIX6oAS8loHwBA&ved=0CHYQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=NBC%20Lenticular%20Color%20kinescope&f=false</a></div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Also the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers has many references:</div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><a href="https://www.smpte.org/s?as_q=Lenticular%20Kinescope" target="_blank">https://www.smpte.org/s?as_q=Lenticular%20Kinescope</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>SMPTE Membership required to view most at no additional charge. Items can be purchased.</div><div><br></div></blockquote>Having read through a number of the items, it's quite a fascinating system.<div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12px">Secretary</span></div><div><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12px">Skype: <span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>TedLangdell</span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12px">e-mail:<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><a href="mailto:ted@quadvideotapegroup.com" target="_blank">ted@quadvideotapegroup.com</a></span></font></div>
<div><font size="3"><br></font></div></span></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div><div>On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Richard Wirth wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><br><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I'm working on a television history article where I'd like to show an example of Lenticular Color Kinescope.<div>
<br></div><div>I thought I had one in the form of an Ernie Kovacs video available on a couple of You Tube channels </div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEBg6ansaJA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEBg6ansaJA</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>But research (via this group and other sources) tell me that information is incorrect.</div><div><br></div><div>Does anyone know of any video on line that is an actual example of the NBC Lenticular Color Film Process?</div>
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