Don't get me started on what a leap backwards the whole MII boondoggle was. In local news we were trying to go 3/4" Sony SP which would have improved quality <br />a lot. Instead, we got what netted out to be VHS quality on-air. The rest of the universe went Betacam. Even NetNews refused to adopt it!<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr" > <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David Crosthwait <david@dcvideo.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Quad List <quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 20, 2012 7:52 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [QuadList] Quad
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<BR><br /><div id=yiv199318535><html><head></head><div>Yes, the "miracle" of the MII format and the MII cart machine. It was a sad day when the stereo-modified TCR's were shut down for this robot:<div><br></div><div><img height="621" width="480" id="yiv199318535e7c88d30-857a-41a8-9e10-3b63592e1427" src="cid:1.422142359@web84515.mail.ne1.yahoo.com"><br><div><br></div><div>The whole idea of abandoning 2" quad cart (and other formats i.e. 1" type C and 3/4") was to have a unified "one size fit's all" for everything at the network. Office viewing, Net Promos, commercial air, program air (including prime time), EJ, editing, sports slo-mo, field production and on and on. One common format and less NABET operators. A brilliant concept. IIRC, the Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson was the first to go back to 1" type C (BVH-2000) from MII after a very short "experience" with MII
air. </div><div><br></div><div>Comparing a TCR or ACR cart to an MII cart and the machines that ran each format was an eye opener. I wonder if anyone has a working MII Video Cart (MARC) in their garage operation or museum? At one time I had possession of an M format cart machine from a TV station in Waco Texas but it was scrapped. Watching a working TCR or ACR is much more impressive and worthy of the time spent to keep it running in my opinion.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><span class="yiv199318535Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium;"><span class="yiv199318535Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0,
0);font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;"><span class="yiv199318535Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;"><span class="yiv199318535Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;"><span class="yiv199318535Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0,
0);font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;"><span class="yiv199318535Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;">Regards,<br><br>David Crosthwait<br>DC Video<br><i style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-weight:normal;">Videotape transfers and more!</i><br><br><font class="yiv199318535Apple-style-span" size="2">177 West Magnolia Blvd.<br>Burbank, CA. 91502<br>818-563-1073<br>818-563-1177 (fax)<br>818-285-9942 (cell)<br><br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:david@dcvideo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:david@dcvideo.com">david@dcvideo.com</a><br>www.dcvideo.com<br><br>Follow DC Video on
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<br><div><div>On Aug 17, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Rory Ryan wrote:</div><br class="yiv199318535Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>MARCs (ARPS) were used on-air at NBC from the passing of the TCR-100 era until 12/31/99 when their xenix OS's failed to go past Y2K. <br><br>- Rory<br><br><br>On Aug 17, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Scott Thomas <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:scottgfx@mac.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:scottgfx@mac.com">scottgfx@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><br>The Panasonic system with the M-II decks was called a MARC II.<br><br>I saw one on a visit to WFLA-TV in the late 1980's. There were engineers from Panasonic there, rather late, trying to get the system to talk to the station's Utah Scientific automation. They were still using a TCR-100 for playback, and had a second TCR for backup. (This is the one I saw that had EPIS)<br><br>MARC II used an X-Y parallelogram arm.<br><br>There was an earlier MARC
system was based on the original M-Format. I remember seeing a brochure for it, but I don't remember how it worked. I remember seeing pictures with either the tapes or the transports in pull-out drawers. Were these ever installed anywhere?<br><br>Scott Thomas<br><br>On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Dennis Degan wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> On Aug 16, 2012, at 9:46 PM, David Crosthwait wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">One interesting note that I've said in the past on this list: As far as I am aware, NBC New York and Burbank were the only operations to air prime time commercials directly from a cart machine. I am fairly certain that CBS and ABC integrated their commercials into slugs in the air master being played back, but I stand to be
corrected.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> I offer:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> This was true for the TCR/ACR era, but when CBS updated their ACR-25s to digital machines (I think they were ACR-225's), I'd heard that the digital carts were used directly on-air.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> I was not present at NBC NY from 1979 to 2003, so I don't know what they did after the TCR-100's. I believe they had Panasonic cart machines using MII VTR's, whatever it may have been called. I had also heard that NBC had Sony Betacart machines. Whether any of these were used directly on air or not is unknown to me.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
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