<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I understand and I should have provided more detail. I used a work tape, not a client or master tape, and it was on AVR-1's so I used auto cue/time code marks and only went for ten seconds of tape. The AVR-1 would do ten or twenty passes very quickly.<br><br>Sent from my iPad<div><br></div></div><div><br>On 2012-07-25, at 1:13 PM, "<a href="mailto:Chill315@aol.com">Chill315@aol.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:Chill315@aol.com">Chill315@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Celebrating four years of Quad Conversations, July 25, 2012</span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Wayne</span><br><span></span><br><span>I could not afford to even do the additional passes.  The client in  the </span><br><span>post production business will not accept any damage to their tape.  And  now, </span><br><span>it is even more critical in the transfer business.  I can see where  this </span><br><span>would apply in the broadcast station where tape gets reused a lot.  We  would </span><br><span>have to eat the time and tape costs to do any work over that was damaged  in </span><br><span>this method.  So our standards were different than many other  places.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Chris Hill</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>In a message dated 7/25/2012 2:26:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  </span><br><span><a href="mailto:wayne.watson@sait.ca">wayne.watson@sait.ca</a> writes:</span><br><span></span><br><span>Celebrating four years of Quad Conversations, July 25,  2012</span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span>I agree Chris and that is exactly what it looks like. The dots would  </span><br><span>become worse (intensify) over many passes. To isolate the magnetized area I  </span><br><span>would put  a layer or two of scotch tape on, say a post, and then do 10  or 20 </span><br><span>passes and look at the dots again. Of course clean the path well after  this.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Wayne Watson</span><br><span></span><br><span>Sent from my iPad  </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On 2012-07-25, at 11:55 AM, "_<a href="mailto:chill315@aol.com">chill315@aol.com</a>_ (<a href="mailto:chill315@aol.com">mailto:chill315@aol.com</a>) " </span><br><span><_<a href="mailto:chill315@aol.com">chill315@aol.com</a>_ (<a href="mailto:chill315@aol.com">mailto:chill315@aol.com</a>) > wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Celebrating four years of Quad Conversations, July 25,  2012</span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>IMHO the rotary head is not the problem.  The biggest thing  that I found </span><br><span>needing degaussing was the rest of the tape path.  The  magnetized areas </span><br><span>would show up as fine dots on a diagonal line.  This  was caused by erasing a </span><br><span>part of the tape.  But it would only be a fine  amount and appear to be a  </span><br><span>scratch.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Degaussing the path and it would  disappear.  The problem was that the </span><br><span>demagnetization had taken place  and the tape is now degraded.</span><br><span></span><br><span>We did the  tape path about every 25 hours of head  use.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Chris  Hill</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:32 PM, lee  williams <_<a href="mailto:lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com">lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com</a>_ </span><br><span>(<a href="mailto:lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com">mailto:lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com</a>) >  wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Celebrating four years of Quad  Conversations, July 25, 2012</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Does anybody have any experience on the  benefits of degaussing the video </span><br><span>heads on a Mark IV  head?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Came across the old maintenance manual for  the AVR3 and Ampex recommended </span><br><span>that it be done every 100 hours. (As well  as the entire tape path).</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Is this overkill ?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Thanks</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Lee</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Please trim posts to relevant info when  replying.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Change subject to reflect thread direction.  Thanks.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Send QuadList list posts to _<a href="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com">QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>_ </span><br><span>(<a href="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com">mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>) </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Your subscribe, unsubscribe and digest  options are here:</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listinfo/quadlist_quadvideotapeg</span><br><span><a href="http://roup.com">roup.com</a>_ </span><br><span>(<a href="http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listinfo/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com">http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listinfo/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com</a>) </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>IMHO the rotary head is not the problem.  The biggest thing that I  found </span><br><span>needing degaussing was the rest of the tape path.  The magnetized  areas </span><br><span>would show up as fine dots on a diagonal line.  This was caused  by erasing a </span><br><span>part of the tape.  But it would only be a fine amount and  appear to be a </span><br><span>scratch.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Degaussing the path and it would disappear.  The problem was that  the </span><br><span>demagnetization had taken place and the tape is now degraded.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>We did the tape path about every 25 hours of head use.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Chris  Hill</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:32 PM, lee williams <_<a href="mailto:lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com">lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com</a>_ </span><br><span>(<a href="mailto:lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com">mailto:lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com</a>) >  wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Celebrating four years of Quad Conversations, July 25,  2012</span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Does anybody have any experience on the benefits  of degaussing  the video </span><br><span>heads on a Mark IV head? </span><br><span></span><br><span>Came across the old maintenance manual for the AVR3  and Ampex recommended </span><br><span>that it be done every 100 hours. (As well as the  entire tape path). </span><br><span></span><br><span>Is this overkill ? </span><br><span></span><br><span>Thanks </span><br><span>Lee </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Please  trim posts to relevant info when  replying.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Change subject to reflect  thread direction.  Thanks.</span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span>Send  QuadList list posts to _<a href="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com">QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>_ </span><br><span>(<a href="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com">mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>) </span><br><span>Your  subscribe, unsubscribe and digest options are here:</span><br><span>_http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listinfo/quadlist_quadvideotapeg</span><br><span><a href="http://roup.com">roup.com</a>_ </span><br><span>(<a href="http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listinfo/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com">http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listinfo/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com</a>) </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Please  trim posts to relevant info when  replying.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Change subject to reflect thread  direction.  Thanks.</span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span>Send  QuadList list posts to _<a href="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com">QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>_ </span><br><span>(<a href="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com">mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>) </span><br><span>Your  subscribe, unsubscribe and digest options are here:</span><br><span>_http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listin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<div>Wayne</div>
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<div>I could not afford to even do the additional passes.  The client in 
the post production business will not accept any damage to their tape.  And 
now, it is even more critical in the transfer business.  I can see where 
this would apply in the broadcast station where tape gets reused a lot.  We 
would have to eat the time and tape costs to do any work over that was damaged 
in this method.  So our standards were different than many other 
places.</div>
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<div>Chris Hill</div>
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<div>In a message dated 7/25/2012 2:26:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
<a href="mailto:wayne.watson@sait.ca">wayne.watson@sait.ca</a> writes:</div>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color="#000000" size="2" face="Arial">Celebrating four years of Quad Conversations, July 25, 
  2012<br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>
  <div>I agree Chris and that is exactly what it looks like. The dots would 
  become worse (intensify) over many passes. To isolate the magnetized area I 
  would put  a layer or two of scotch tape on, say a post, and then do 10 
  or 20 passes and look at the dots again. Of course clean the path well after 
  this.<br><br>Wayne Watson</div>
  <div><br>Sent from my iPad 
  <div><br></div></div>
  <div><br>On 2012-07-25, at 11:55 AM, "<a title="mailto:chill315@aol.com" href="mailto:chill315@aol.com">chill315@aol.com</a>" <<a title="mailto:chill315@aol.com" href="mailto:chill315@aol.com">chill315@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
  <div></div>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <div><span>Celebrating four years of Quad Conversations, July 25, 
    2012</span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></div></blockquote>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <div><span>IMHO the rotary head is not the problem.  The biggest thing 
    that I found needing degaussing was the rest of the tape path.  The 
    magnetized areas would show up as fine dots on a diagonal line.  This 
    was caused by erasing a part of the tape.  But it would only be a fine 
    amount and appear to be a 
    scratch.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Degaussing the path and it would 
    disappear.  The problem was that the demagnetization had taken place 
    and the tape is now degraded.</span><br><span></span><br><span>We did the 
    tape path about every 25 hours of head 
    use.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Chris 
    Hill</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:32 PM, lee 
    williams <<a title="mailto:lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com" href="mailto:lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com">lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com</a>> 
    wrote:</span><br><span></span><br>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span>Celebrating four years of Quad 
      Conversations, July 25, 2012</span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span>Does anybody have any experience on the 
      benefits of degaussing the video heads on a Mark IV 
    head?</span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span>Came across the old maintenance manual for 
      the AVR3 and Ampex recommended that it be done every 100 hours. (As well 
      as the entire tape path).</span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span>Is this overkill ?</span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks</span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span>Lee</span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span>Please trim posts to relevant info when 
      replying.</span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span>Change subject to reflect thread direction. 
      Thanks.</span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>
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    <div>
    <div>IMHO the rotary head is not the problem.  The biggest thing that I 
    found needing degaussing was the rest of the tape path.  The magnetized 
    areas would show up as fine dots on a diagonal line.  This was caused 
    by erasing a part of the tape.  But it would only be a fine amount and 
    appear to be a scratch.</div>
    <div><br></div>
    <div>Degaussing the path and it would disappear.  The problem was that 
    the demagnetization had taken place and the tape is now degraded.</div>
    <div><br></div>
    <div>We did the tape path about every 25 hours of head use.<br><br>Chris 
    Hill</div>
    <div><br>On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:32 PM, lee williams <<a title="mailto:lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com" href="mailto:lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com">lasvegastvengineer@yahoo.com</a>> 
    wrote:<br><br></div>
    <div></div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div><span>Celebrating four years of Quad Conversations, July 25, 
      2012</span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span></div></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div>
      <div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; FONT-FAMILY: lucida console, sans-serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
      <div style="RIGHT: auto">Does anybody have any experience on the benefits 
      of <span style="RIGHT: auto" id="misspell-0"><span>degaussing</span></span> 
      the video heads on a Mark IV head? </div>
      <div style="RIGHT: auto"> </div>
      <div style="RIGHT: auto">Came across the old maintenance <span style="RIGHT: auto" id="misspell-1"><span>manual</span></span> for the AVR3 
      and Ampex recommended that it be done every 100 hours. (As well as the 
      entire tape path). </div>
      <div style="RIGHT: auto"> </div>
      <div style="RIGHT: auto">Is this overkill ? </div>
      <div style="RIGHT: auto"> </div>
      <div style="RIGHT: auto">Thanks </div>
      <div style="RIGHT: auto">Lee <var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var></div>
      <div style="RIGHT: auto"> </div>
      <div style="RIGHT: auto"> </div></div></div></blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Please 
      trim posts to relevant info when 
      replying.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Change subject to reflect 
      thread direction. 
      Thanks.</span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span>Send 
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