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<DIV><BR>Most likely only available used/refurbished as almost all new flat panels plus audio-video receivers and processors from Marantz and other companies no longer have S-VHS inputs, only composite, component and HDMI. Smaller audio-video companies such as NAD and ARCAM still include S-VHS inputs. <BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> "quadlist-request@quadvideotapegroup.com" <quadlist-request@quadvideotapegroup.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Mon, February 27, 2012 1:00:12 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> QuadList Digest, Vol 44, Issue 72<BR></FONT><BR>Send QuadList mailing list submissions to<BR> <A href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com" ymailto="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</A><BR><BR>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR> http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listinfo/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com<BR><BR>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR> <A href="mailto:quadlist-request@quadvideotapegroup.com"
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(<A href="mailto:Chill315@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:Chill315@aol.com">Chill315@aol.com</A>)<BR> 2. OT: is S-VHS "obsolete" in copyright law's eyes? (Walter Forsberg)<BR> 3. Re: OT: is S-VHS "obsolete" in copyright law's eyes?<BR> (<A href="mailto:chill315@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:chill315@aol.com">chill315@aol.com</A>)<BR> 4. Re: OT: is S-VHS "obsolete" in copyright law's eyes?<BR> (John Fletcher)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:07:42 -0500 (EST)<BR>From: <A href="mailto:Chill315@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:Chill315@aol.com">Chill315@aol.com</A><BR>To: <A href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com" ymailto="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</A><BR>Subject: [QuadList] Ampex Hint of the Week, Video Levels in VR-1200<BR> and
VR-2000<BR>Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:241da.31225ec5.3c7ce82e@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:241da.31225ec5.3c7ce82e@aol.com">241da.31225ec5.3c7ce82e@aol.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>Setting video levels is an interesting problem. What is the philosophy <BR>that one should follow. At the production facilities I worked at, we took <BR>the view that the video operator did his job correctly. That was the heart <BR>of the question. We therefore had the following procedure. <BR><BR>Set the Proc Amp to Unity. Then use the Demod Level out to set the video <BR>out of the machine.<BR><BR>To do this it was necessary to do the following. <BR><BR>Set unity levels in the proc amp. I used a scope with the invert and add <BR>function to null out the levels at the highest gain possible. That way it <BR>was as close as possible to
perfect.<BR><BR>The book has the alignment procedure. Here are the following pots numbers <BR>and what they do.<BR><BR>R-5 on the test point panel sets burst level.<BR><BR>R-6 on the test point panel sets video level.<BR><BR>R-9 on the test point panel sets the set-up level.<BR><BR>R-39 Board 17 sets the blanking clamp level to the same as input.<BR><BR>R-51 Board 13 sets the sync level.<BR><BR>Once we did this, we found that the quality of the video shot up. We were <BR>able to get more generations. The reason being that we did not make <BR>slight changes to the video quality each pass. Miss-set the black level by a <BR>couple of IRE's on the bars and over a few passes, you either wash it out or <BR>darken it. Also it was the intention to keep the dynamic range at the <BR>optimal point for each piece of the chain. <BR><BR>The thing we found is that we rarely had to take the proc
amp out of <BR>unity. The times we did this was usually when we got a tape from a station. <BR>They seemed to never have a set of best practices. It was just throw up a <BR>tape and push buttons. Some even would record tapes without bars and send <BR>them to us. Try to make a silk purse out a sows ear on those situations.<BR><BR>Chris Hill<BR>WA8IGN<BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/pipermail/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com/attachments/20120227/a1dd0118/attachment-0001.html><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:56:20 -0600<BR>From: Walter Forsberg <<A href="mailto:walterforsberg@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:walterforsberg@gmail.com">walterforsberg@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: <A href="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com"
ymailto="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com">QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com</A><BR>Subject: [QuadList] OT: is S-VHS "obsolete" in copyright law's eyes?<BR>Message-ID:<BR> <CAO+fC9OgeGRJL0J+TSVt2HgM4+<A href="mailto:zpjXsMWS7jHCwWbWYhJxa9aw@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:zpjXsMWS7jHCwWbWYhJxa9aw@mail.gmail.com">zpjXsMWS7jHCwWbWYhJxa9aw@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Hi All-<BR><BR>I'm wondering if anyone might corroborate my impression that there are no<BR>DVD/VHS combination decks currently being manufactured that support native<BR>output of S-VHS. Looking around, it seems like while S-VHS tapes can be<BR>read by some of the combo decks still-in-production, the signal is<BR>down-rezzed (terms like "quasi-playback" are used) to VHS levels of<BR>resolution.<BR><BR>Thanks, in advance, for any thoughts!<BR><BR>Walter Forsberg<BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML
attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <<A href="http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/pipermail/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com/attachments/20120227/46be913d/attachment-0001.html" target=_blank>http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/pipermail/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com/attachments/20120227/46be913d/attachment-0001.html</A>><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:17:39 -0500<BR>From: <A href="mailto:chill315@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:chill315@aol.com">chill315@aol.com</A><BR>To: Quad List <<A href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com" ymailto="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [QuadList] OT: is S-VHS "obsolete" in copyright law's<BR> eyes?<BR>Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:46A064F0-32B6-4D11-BE93-7A792A7EB0C1@aol.com"
ymailto="mailto:46A064F0-32B6-4D11-BE93-7A792A7EB0C1@aol.com">46A064F0-32B6-4D11-BE93-7A792A7EB0C1@aol.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<BR><BR>I was always under the impression that the only real advantage of S-video was on the TV set end. By avoiding the chroma separation circuits in the TV you got a little bit better picture. The change in the quality was not that much as far as I was concerned.<BR><BR>The quality difference between regular and S VHS to me was not that great.<BR><BR>Chris Hill<BR><BR>On Feb 27, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Walter Forsberg <<A href="mailto:walterforsberg@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:walterforsberg@gmail.com">walterforsberg@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> Hi All-<BR>> <BR>> I'm wondering if anyone might corroborate my impression that there are no DVD/VHS combination decks currently being manufactured that support native output of S-VHS. Looking around, it seems
like while S-VHS tapes can be read by some of the combo decks still-in-production, the signal is down-rezzed (terms like "quasi-playback" are used) to VHS levels of resolution.<BR>> <BR>> Thanks, in advance, for any thoughts!<BR>> <BR>> Walter Forsberg<BR>> Please trim posts to relevant info when replying.<BR>> <BR>> Change subject to reflect thread direction. Thanks.<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> <BR>> Send QuadList list posts to <A href="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com" ymailto="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com">QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com</A><BR>> Your subscribe, unsubscribe and digest options are here:<BR>> <A href="http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listinfo/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com" target=_blank>http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listinfo/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message:
4<BR>Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:27:32 -0500<BR>From: John Fletcher <<A href="mailto:jfletcher@frontiernet.net" ymailto="mailto:jfletcher@frontiernet.net">jfletcher@frontiernet.net</A>><BR>To: Quad List <<A href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com" ymailto="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [QuadList] OT: is S-VHS "obsolete" in copyright law's<BR> eyes?<BR>Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:1330363652.15035.3.camel@debian.basement" ymailto="mailto:1330363652.15035.3.camel@debian.basement">1330363652.15035.3.camel@debian.basement</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"<BR><BR><BR>Could this be just because these DVD/VHS combo decks are aimed at the<BR>"consumer" set who never bought into SVHS... so no need to go the extra<BR>step to provide full SVHS playback capability?<BR><BR>- John<BR><BR><BR>On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 10:56 -0600, Walter Forsberg
wrote:<BR>> Hi All-<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I'm wondering if anyone might corroborate my impression that there are<BR>> no DVD/VHS combination decks currently being manufactured that support<BR>> native output of S-VHS. Looking around, it seems like while S-VHS<BR>> tapes can be read by some of the combo decks still-in-production, the<BR>> signal is down-rezzed (terms like "quasi-playback" are used) to VHS<BR>> levels of resolution.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Thanks, in advance, for any thoughts!<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Walter Forsberg<BR>> Please trim posts to relevant info when replying.<BR>> <BR>> Change subject to reflect thread direction. Thanks.<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> <BR>> Send QuadList list posts to <A href="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com" ymailto="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com">QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com</A><BR>> Your subscribe, unsubscribe and
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