<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Hi, Lee,</div><div>Thanks for the additional sourcing.  </div><div><br></div><div>The Xylene I bought wasn't labelled as a stripper, although the other materials in the list I posted are.  One might well assume that "hardware store Xylene" is designed for that purpose.</div><div><br></div><div>Some of the things we use are pretty scary substances!  </div><div><br></div><div>And to think when I was 11 and 12, <a href="http://www.miller-stephenson.com">Miller-Stephenson</a> would send me 9-can cases of Freon-based head cleaner, degreaser, etc. just for circling a bingo card from BE or BM/E.</div><div><br></div><div>They are still in business and make a media head cleaner</div><div><a href="http://www.miller-stephenson.com/products/detail.aspx?ItemId=41">http://www.miller-stephenson.com/products/detail.aspx?ItemId=41</a></div><div><br></div><div>And contact renewal fluid:</div><div><a href="http://www.miller-stephenson.com/contact_re-nu/">http://www.miller-stephenson.com/contact_re-nu/</a></div><div><br></div><div>No experience with these products, but it comments are appropriate if anyone has.</div><div><br></div><div>Ted</div><br><div><div>On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:37 PM, lee williams wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">Hay Ted, </span></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">You really don't want to use anything that has stripper in the description. </span></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">It will have a lifting agent in it that will probably leave a film. </span></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">I still have some of the old (98%) Xylene before California banned it and it had done <span style="RIGHT: auto" id="misspell-0"><span>incredible</span></span> things in getting a head that I thought was dead to come back to life. (for a little while). </span></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">Chemical supply houses and Medical supply houses still have access to the good stuff. </span></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">Be very careful on how you use the Xylene, it ranks really high on the list of cancer causing chemicals. </span></div>
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<div>Having purchased a quart of XYLENE at an ACE hardware store and used it as a head and transport cleaner, USE IN A WELL VENTILATED AREA!  With no sources of ignition!</div>
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<div>Ace lists a number of Xylene/<span id="misspell-3" class="mark">Xylol</span> based products, often as paint strippers:</div>
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<div><a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/search.aspx">http://ace.infotrac.net/search.aspx</a>  Select "Product Name."  Enter XYLENE</div>
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<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowMsds.aspx?pid=19351" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[<span id="misspell-4" class="mark">MSDS</span>]</font></a> <a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowData.aspx?pid=19351" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[Regulations]</font></a> <a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowIMO.aspx?pid=19351" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[IMO]</font></a></td>
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<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">CROWN <span id="misspell-5" class="mark">XYLOL</span> XYLENE 5 <span id="misspell-6" class="mark">GL</span></font></td>
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<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif"><span id="misspell-8" class="mark">KLEAN</span> STRIP XYLENE 5 <span id="misspell-9" class="mark">GL</span></font></td>
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<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">13301</font></td>
<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif"><span id="misspell-11" class="mark">KLEAN</span> STRIP XYLENE <span id="misspell-12" class="mark">GL</span></font></td>
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<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">1438589</font></td>
<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif"><span id="misspell-14" class="mark">KLEAN</span> STRIP XYLENE <span id="misspell-15" class="mark">GL</span></font></td>
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<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowMsds.aspx?pid=648943" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[<span id="misspell-16" class="mark">MSDS</span>]</font></a> <a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowData.aspx?pid=648943" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[Regulations]</font></a> <a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowIMO.aspx?pid=648943" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[IMO]</font></a></td>
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<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif"><span id="misspell-17" class="mark">KLEAN</span> STRIP XYLENE <span id="misspell-18" class="mark">GL</span></font></td>
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<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowMsds.aspx?pid=1231004" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[<span id="misspell-19" class="mark">MSDS</span>]</font></a> <a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowData.aspx?pid=1231004" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[Regulations]</font></a> <a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowIMO.aspx?pid=1231004" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[IMO]</font></a></td>
<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">1438571</font></td>
<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif"><span id="misspell-20" class="mark">KLEAN</span> STRIP XYLENE QT</font></td>
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<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowMsds.aspx?pid=16886" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[<span id="misspell-21" class="mark">MSDS</span>]</font></a> <a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowData.aspx?pid=16886" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[Regulations]</font></a> <a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowIMO.aspx?pid=16886" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[IMO]</font></a></td>
<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">1005859</font></td>
<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif"><span id="misspell-22" class="mark">KLEAN</span> STRIP XYLENE QT</font></td>
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<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">1206143</font></td>
<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif"><span id="misspell-24" class="mark">KLEAN</span> STRIP XYLENE QT</font></td>
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<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowMsds.aspx?pid=655510" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[<span id="misspell-25" class="mark">MSDS</span>]</font></a> <a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowData.aspx?pid=655510" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[Regulations]</font></a> <a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/ShowIMO.aspx?pid=655510" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">[IMO]</font></a></td>
<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif">1207638</font></td>
<td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"><font size="2" face="verdana, geneva, sans-serif"><span id="misspell-26" class="mark">XYLOL</span> XYLENE <span id="misspell-27" class="mark">GL</span></font></td>
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<div>The <span id="misspell-28" class="mark">MSDS</span> for the one I believe I purchased is here:</div>
<div><a href="http://ace.infotrac.net/msdsimages/sterling%20clark%20lurton%20corp/xylol4060.pdf">http://ace.infotrac.net/msdsimages/sterling%20clark%20lurton%20corp/xylol4060.pdf</a></div>
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<div>Seems this product is 83.8% XYLENE and 16.2% Ethyl Benzine.  Not sure how the Benzine component plays into suitability for tape head and transport cleaning. </div>
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<div>Sure is stinky and has a low <span id="misspell-29" class="mark">flashpoint</span>: 81F. A 3 (High) fire hazard rating.</div>
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<div>Ted</div>
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<div>On Dec 21, 2011, at 8:13 AM, C. Park Seward wrote:</div><wbr>
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<div>Hi Bob,</div>
<div><wbr></div>No Freon. From an <span id="misspell-30" class="mark">Ampex</span> manual: 
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<div>"The recommended solvent is <span id="misspell-31" class="mark">Ampex</span> Head Cleaner (Cat 087-007) which is composed of 98% Xylene, 2% <span id="misspell-32" class="mark">Trichloretylene</span> and a dash of "<span id="misspell-33" class="mark">Kodaflow</span>", which is a wetting agent intended to enhance the flow of the solvent in restricted areas."</div>
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<div>The <span id="misspell-34" class="mark">TCH</span> as to speed up evaporation.</div>
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<div>And from the Material Safety Data Sheet, a slight variation:</div>
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<div>It contains 86% of <span id="misspell-35" class="mark">XYLENES</span> (O-,M-,P- ISOMERS and 14% of METHYL CHLOROFORM (1,1,1-<span id="misspell-36" class="mark">TRICHLOROETHANE</span>)</div></div>
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<div><wbr>Best,</div>
<div>Park</div>
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<div>C. Park Seward</div>
<div>Cell: 818-535-2747</div>
<div>Home: 541-476-6657</div>
<div>2" Quad and 1" "C" transfers</div>
<div>The Transfer Lab at Video Park</div>
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<div>On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:00 PM, <a href="mailto:rabruner@aol.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:rabruner@aol.com">rabruner@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><wbr>
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<div>The old <span id="misspell-37" class="mark">Ampex</span> head cleaner was a mixture of Xylene and freon.  At an <span id="misspell-38" class="mark">Ampex</span> maintenance school for D2 machines, they told us they used Xylene because it was the only thing effective at dissolving the tape binder that deposited on the machines.  Many years ago, I worked at an automated FM station where we used xylene to make clear windows in audio tape to allow optical cuing of the spot reel.  My guess would be you would not want to use xylene directly on tape because it will attack and soften, if not remove completely, the binder.</div>
<div>Bob <span id="misspell-39" class="mark">Bruner</span></div>
<div>W9<span id="misspell-40" class="mark">TAJ</span><wbr><wbr><wbr><font size="2" face="Arial"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> C. Park Seward <<a href="mailto:park@videopark.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:park@videopark.com">park@videopark.com</a>><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Quad List <<a href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>> <br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:59 AM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [QuadList] <span id="misspell-42" class="mark">Sugestions</span> on how to clean sappers.<br></font></div>
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<div>Thanks for all the good information. 
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<div>I have to agree about Xylene. A little aggressive for my tastes for cleaning glue, unless I get to a really bad spot.  However, I do use it exclusively when cleaning transports. </div>
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<div>To clean off the glue, I use alcohol and a Q-tip. It takes some time but will get the glue off. I then clean the tape with multiple passes with <span id="misspell-43" class="mark">Pellon</span> cloth and clean the machine after each pass since the guides scrape off any remaining glue.</div>
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<div>Goof Off and Goo Gone may work too. But I must try the Eucalyptus. Sounds like a great solution. I will have at least 20 more reels to clean. 
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<div><wbr>Best,</div>
<div>Park</div>
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<div>On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:15 PM, <a href="mailto:Chill315@aol.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Chill315@aol.com">Chill315@aol.com</a> wrote:</div>
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<div>I would not use <span id="misspell-44" class="mark">xzylene</span>.  I have used it to remove oxide from tape.  You might do more damage then good. Chris Hill</div>
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