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<DIV>David, what is the part # of it??
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<DIV>In a message dated 12/13/2011 7:00:46 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
dixie@westpoint.tv writes:</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi List</DIV>
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<DIV>Here is a trick I have used with half inch tapes, I have a dual standard
Panasonic DVD recorder which acts as one of the best TBCs I have seen,
put in any old signal, and it outputs broadcast PAL or NTSC, (depends on
which standard is selected). It is useful to have a variable attenuator on the
input. Dont forget to pass the sound through it as well to keep it in sync
!</DIV>
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<DIV>Jobs a goodun</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 13, 2011 1:35
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [QuadList] What to do with 1/2
inch tapes and proc amps</DIV>
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<DIV>This is a good discussion regarding 1/2 inch tapes. I hope I
do not get too verbose with this answer.</DIV>
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<DIV>The EIA-J tapes may be a real problem. The first step is to look
at the raw video on a waveform monitor.</DIV>
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<DIV>Is the sync even interlaced? Some of the early cameras were just
free running horizontal oscillators and vertical locked to power line.</DIV>
<DIV>Is it industrial or RS-170? Look for equalizing pulses in the
vertical interval. If not, then many professional proc amps and TBC's
will have problems.</DIV>
<DIV>What is the level that you are dealing with? Hopefully 100 over
40 but don't count on it with the early AGC circuits for video. </DIV>
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<DIV>If you get past this first step, then it is see what works. For
non RS-170 video, you are in never, never land. It is try, try, and
try again. The 3M unit may help. Also there are other very early
proc amps out there. Even a video DA to adjust sync to a 40 IRE level
may help.</DIV>
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<DIV>There are video DA's that have sync stretch in them, that may be
something to try.</DIV>
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<DIV>What will the proc Amp do for you?</DIV>
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<DIV>It will allow you to adjust the video levels prior to Analog to
Digital conversion to give you best range in that process. It will
clean up the sync pulses to allow proper write clock operation. </DIV>
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<DIV>What will be the bad things it will do?</DIV>
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<DIV>If used before a TBC, it may put a lot of jitter in your final
picture. This is because the Proc Amp has replaced the sync and the
video is not always coherent with the video anymore. You sometimes see
this as high frequency jitter or Venetian blinds. </DIV>
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<DIV>If not RS-170 sync it will burp a lot if it only works with RS-170
sync. Again never, never land.</DIV>
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<DIV>If heterodyne color we are into never, never land again. Each
manufacture treated this in different ways. Grass Valley was not
designed for this. Now if used before the TBC, again it is never,
never land. You have to experiment to see what you can do.</DIV>
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<DIV>Where do you put it in the chain?</DIV>
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<DIV>The TBC has a proc amp on the output. It is required in the
design of any TBC to function. Since the Horizontal interval is not
digitized, it has to be re-generated and inserted in the output of the
TBC. Along with the other handles that we expect. Manufactures
have a couple of choices on where to put the video gain in a TBC. Most
do it at the output. It is possible to put it before the A-D
converter. This gives you better dynamic range. It is an
engineering trade off.</DIV>
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<DIV>There is one method that works almost every time. It requires
some of the most sophisticated equipment known to man. A black magic
cloth, a good monitor and a camera. Use an under scan monitor and
point a camera at it to just fill the scans of the camera. Drape it so
light does not get in and start the transfer. The fast time constant
of the monitor serves as the TBC. If you have access to ramp or stair
steps, then set up the monitor and camera to give as good a transfer as
possible. Monitor for correct brightness and contrast. Camera
for correct white and black plus gamma.</DIV>
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<DIV>Chris Hill</DIV>
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