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<DIV>Bill:</DIV>
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<DIV>The experience you share from the inside of the industry is a
real treat. Thank you!</DIV>
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<DIV>For what it's worth, I know someone who has married a
TBC-790 to a TR-22. I use a TBC-7 with a VPR-7900 and it works great, but
I have a TBC-790, so maybe I'll try it with a 1200 one of these days.
Seems like maybe a fun project for a weekend next winter. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Don Norwood<BR>Digitrak Communications, Inc.<BR><A
href="http://www.digitrakcom.com">www.digitrakcom.com</A></DIV>
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Carpenter</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 06, 2011 7:00 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [QuadList] TBC</DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Hi Don & Park,<BR><BR>Yes, you are correct Don, but
let's put some dates on these things.<BR><BR>I did some work trying to
get the <SPAN>VR</SPAN>-7800/VR-7900 to work thru a Amtek/Colortec in
late 1970's, and I was still working in Elk Grove, IL.<BR><BR>At this
time I got into the Anderson Lab's TBC contract.<BR><BR>August of 1971,
I moved to California with Ampex, <BR><BR>Late that year the Anderson
Labs prototype was tested in California and was found
unacceptable.<BR><BR>Early 1972, I saw the Ampex "mini-buffer" (with
Anderson delay lines which was created by the AVR-1 buffer folks, which
were engineers who worked with Charles Coleman) which was to be
available in a VR-1200, to be renamed the VR-1400.<BR><BR>This became
the TBC-790.<BR><BR>I also saw the prototype work on the DTBC.<BR><BR>I
also moved from the Helical Group, to the Broadcast Group, and was
assigned some GREAT products, the VR-1200B & C models, the VR-3000,
and all the quad accessories. <BR><BR>Also I had a new product in
development, code named "NOVA"<BR><BR>The Nova product was going so well
that we gambled at the NAB show in Washington,in 1973.<BR><BR>First, I
had a prototype console assembled photographed after hours in the
Engineering Building lobby. I created a secret brochure with
VR-1400 as the model number, and I burned all 1000 copies in my
fireplace after NAB 73.<BR><BR>This prototype was shipped to the
Washington, DC area, but not shown.<BR><BR>Note: Another milestone was
when I was standing in the background in the CVS demo suite,at about
6PM, of the first day of the show and heard the Anderson Labs design
teams comments on the New CVS DTBC, which was the shock item of the
show.<BR><BR>Later, I went to dinner with the CVS management folks and
had only one comment, Great Job Fellas, but I think you are "leaving
money on the table".<BR><BR>So, CVS got the credit for the first DTBC at
NAB 1973.<BR><BR>One year later we introduced the "Nova" product, as the
AVR-2 and the TBC-800 for helicals.<BR><BR>One month later, with a AVR-2
in a demo suite in a Canadian trade show in Calgary, I gave a iimpromptu
A<SPAN>VR-</SPAN>2 paper, right after as CBS Labs paper was read, that
stated that the DTBC was a great product, but not ready for Broadcast
use<BR>.<BR>I told the audience that they could be the judge of that
statement, and they all came and saw the broadcast product in the
suite.<BR>Note: The first AVR-2 was on the air in Nashville, less than
48 hrs from leaving the NAB show floor in Huston, Tx.<BR><BR>Bye for
now, Bill & <SPAN>Gewyn</SPAN> & Ginger
(whoof...whoof)<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 5/6/11, Don Norwood
<I><dwnorwood@embarqmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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Don Norwood <dwnorwood@embarqmail.com><BR>Subject: Re:
[QuadList] TBC<BR>To: "Quad List"
<quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com><BR>Date: Friday, May 6, 2011,
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<DIV>Park:</DIV>
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<DIV>Not to preempt Bill, but yes, it was slightly before the days of
Bill Hendershot and his CVS digital TBC, but there was market overlap
during the product lifespan. CVS was first, so NEC would have
followed sometime later. The Microtime box was an all analog
signal path using switched delay lines with some digital control and
timing circuitry. It's advantage originally was its "large"
correction window.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Don Norwood<BR>Digitrak Communications, Inc.<BR><A
href="http://www.digitrakcom.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>www.digitrakcom.com</A></DIV>
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<A title=park@videopark.com href="/mc/compose?to=park@videopark.com"
rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:park@videopark.com">C.
Park Seward</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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href="/mc/compose?to=quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com" rel=nofollow
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 06, 2011
11:33 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [QuadList]
TBC</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Bill,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I assume this Andersen project was before CVS sold the
standalone TBC? And before NEC had TBCs?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Charlie Steinberg is great. Quite a blow to Ampex when, after
25 years, went to Sony as President of their Broadcast Division. I
don't know the back story of why he left but he sure did well at
Sony and I'm sure took a lot of business away from Ampex.<BR>
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<DIV><BR class=yiv1660138732Apple-interchange-newline>Best,</DIV>
<DIV>Park</DIV>
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<DIV>C. Park Seward</DIV>
<DIV>Cell: 818-535-2747</DIV>
<DIV>Home: 541-476-6657</DIV>
<DIV>2" Quad and 1" "C" transfers</DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Hi Scott & Don,<BR><BR>Yes you are
correct, the glass delay lines used in the
AVR-1,<SPAN>ACR</SPAN>-25, and the TBC 790 were Anderson
Labs products. <BR><BR>The president came to me in Elk
Grove, and wanted to sell us a simple TBC, which they had in
a very rough form.<BR><BR>They had shopped it around and
nobody would buy it.<BR><BR>We had a short term need & I
signed the development contract.<BR><BR>They knew there
delay lines, but did not know how to handle video properly
and sync handling was very poor. We tested it after we had
moved to California in mid 71, and it did not work with the
7900.<BR><BR>They went away, redesigned with some new
engineers, brought the product to market and then sued Ampex
for breach of contract, because we had deep
pockets.<BR><BR>I gave a couple days of depositions, and
then one day I met our President, Charlie Stienberg in the
hall, and we decided on a $ figure of a "go away" payment to
end the litigation. They accepted, and went away as
victorious for less than the price of a single TBC.<BR><BR>I
learned a lot about contracts from that exercise.<BR><BR>Bye
for now, <SPAN>lBill</SPAN> & Gewyn & Ginger
(whoof...whoof)<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 5/6/11, Don Norwood
<I><<A href="/mc/compose?to=dwnorwood@embarqmail.com"
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ymailto="mailto:dwnorwood@embarqmail.com">dwnorwood@embarqmail.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:<BR>
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Don Norwood <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=dwnorwood@embarqmail.com"
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ymailto="mailto:dwnorwood@embarqmail.com">dwnorwood@embarqmail.com</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: [QuadList] TBC<BR>To: "Quad List" <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com"
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</A>><BR>Date:
Friday, May 6, 2011, 6:49 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Hi Scott:</DIV>
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<DIV>Yes, that looks like the manual I have. A very
fair price if someone needs one. Copying or scanning
this would be a considerable task as many of the pages are
11x17 foldouts.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My impression of the company during the time
that these were made was that Microtime was a company
created to utilize some of the technology that the parent
company, Andersen Laboratories, manufactured. I
believe Andersen made the delay lines that were used
in the TBC's. Perhaps Bill can shed some additional
light on this.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Don Norwood<BR>Digitrak Communications, Inc.<BR><A
href="http://www.digitrakcom.com/" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>www.digitrakcom.com</A></DIV>
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<A title=scottgfx@mac.com rel=nofollow>Scott Thomas</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com rel=nofollow>Quad
List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May
06, 2011 3:37 AM</DIV>
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[QuadList] TBC</DIV>
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<DIV>I found a manual for sale online...</DIV>
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<DIV><A
href="http://www.dantiques2.com/vpasp/shopexd.asp?ccode=26768"
rel=nofollow
target=_blank>http://www.dantiques2.com/vpasp/shopexd.asp?ccode=26768</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Fascinating story. I started tracing the company
and it appears that whatever was left was sold to Avid.
(Along with Pinnacle, DF/X, Dubner)</DIV>
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<DIV>On May 2, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Bill Carpenter
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<TD vAlign=top>Hi Don & Everyone,<BR><BR>I
spec'ed that unit in early 71, and entered into
a contract with Andersen to build it, on
which they delivered a prototype in late 71, may
be Nov, and then the fun started. It did not
work, got rejected, contract into default,
litigation began, gave depsitions, recommended
how much for our president to pay them to " Go
Away", end of Andersen File.<BR><BR>I had the
"mini-buffer" TBC-790 available, before the
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