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<DIV>So who made this one? It has to be from the Soviet Union based upon
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<DIV>Bet Ampex got no money from this design. </DIV>
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<DIV>Above: Non-free world VTR</DIV>
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<DIV>On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Bill Carpenter wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline>
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<TD vAlign=top>Hi Folks,<BR><BR>The quad patent package was well
controlled and also applied to helicals and continued through the mid
80's to the best of my knowledge. We made money on everybody that made
a Quad and later a helical video recorder in the free world. <BR>I
have seen the product shipment reports for most manufacturers. <BR>The
Ginsberg patent related to the FM recording system and was the basis
of the package.<BR><BR>Bye for now, Bill & Ginger
(whoof...whoof)<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 3/21/11, Don Norwood <I><<A title=mailto:dwnorwood@embarqmail.com href="mailto:dwnorwood@embarqmail.com">dwnorwood@embarqmail.com</A>></I></B>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:
Don Norwood <<A title=mailto:dwnorwood@embarqmail.com href="mailto:dwnorwood@embarqmail.com">dwnorwood@embarqmail.com</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: [QuadList] Another Jeporady Question-Quads not made by
AmpexorRCA<BR>To: "Quad List" <<A title=mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</A>><BR>Date:
Monday, March 21, 2011, 9:19 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Hi Ted:</DIV>
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<DIV>By the time Merlin got thru with the machine, it had an Ampex
headwheel, Ampex audio heads and an Ampex pinch roller.
Whether those were part of the original Shibaden design I do not
know. Ken Zin can probably tell us.</DIV>
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<DIV>In the "fine print" of the question Chris originally asked, he
did say only original manufacturers that did not rely on the major
parts of other manufacturers. Some of these machines, like the
Visual/Allen, would not exist without the "big guy's" parts.
On the other hand, machines like the Bosch are
clearly original. I think the intention was
to explore how many companies actually made quads from top to
bottom. Otherwise, I could be a "manufacturer" since I've
built and sold machines made out of a variety of parts. </DIV>
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<DIV>Don </DIV>
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<A title=x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=ted@quadvideotapegroup.com href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=ted@quadvideotapegroup.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:ted@quadvideotapegroup.com">Ted Langdell</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=ted@quadvideotapegroup.com href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=ted@quadvideotapegroup.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:ted@quadvideotapegroup.com">Ted Langdell</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">Quad List</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 21, 2011
11:15 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [QuadList]
Another Jeporady Question-Quads not made by AmpexorRCA</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi, Bill, </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Sorry if the below sound a little sharp in reply...
Not much sleep. Too much going on.
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<DIV>The Shibaden catalog pictures and text would be of great
interest. If you find it again, please try to scan and
post.</DIV>
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<DIV>Anyone else have some Shibaden info?</DIV>
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<DIV>Ted</DIV>
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<DIV>On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Ted Langdell wrote:</DIV><BR class=yiv1988537642Apple-interchange-newline>
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<DIV>The Shibaden SV-7000 Quad used in the Merlin
duplicating system doesn't look like any RCA I've
seen... </DIV>
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<DIV>See the deck and some historic pictures at <A title=http://www.labguysworld.com/Merlin_ME68.htm href="http://www.labguysworld.com/Merlin_ME68.htm" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.labguysworld.com/Merlin_ME68.htm</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Don Norwood posted two different brochures for the system
on June 3, 2009 (<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=yiv1988537642Apple-style-span><B>Re: [QuadList] Fwd:
Merlinized Shibaden for Vidtronics' dub
system(wasToshiba))</B></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Ted</DIV>
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<DIV>On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:13 AM, <<A title=x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=bill.spencer@northstarstudios.tv href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=bill.spencer@northstarstudios.tv" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:bill.spencer@northstarstudios.tv">bill.spencer@northstarstudios.tv</A>>
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wrote:</DIV><BR class=yiv1988537642Apple-interchange-newline>
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used to have a Shibaden catalog from the 70s that showed their
quads and they looked to be RCA clones if not rebadged
RCA.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A title=x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</A>
[<A style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline" title=x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</A>]<SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On
Behalf Of<SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Ted
Langdell<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Monday,
March 21, 2011 8:28 AM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Quad
List<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re:
[QuadList] Another Jeporady Question-Quads not made by Ampex
orRCA</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2"
Quads:</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Bosch<SPAN class=yiv1988537642apple-tab-span> <SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN>(Germany)</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Visual/Allen<SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN class=yiv1988537642apple-tab-span> <SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN>(Bosch
transport and heads from Germany w/Visual/Allen Electronics
from US)</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Shibaden<SPAN class=yiv1988537642apple-tab-span> <SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN>(Japan)</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">TAMCO<SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN class=yiv1988537642apple-tab-span> <SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN>(Japanese
partnership btw. Ampex and Toshiba making Ampex designed
machines in Japan)</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">1"
Quad:</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN class=yiv1988537642apple-tab-span> <SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN>Asaka<SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN class=yiv1988537642apple-tab-span></SPAN>(Japan) Company also
known as Asaka/ShibaSoku</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Sony,
NHK made 2" Quad prototypes in Japan.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I
suspect there are more to be found. The hunt continues!
(We need some Japanese QuadList members!)</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On
Mar 21, 2011, at 5:56 AM,<SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline" title=x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=Chill315@aol.com href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=Chill315@aol.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Chill315@aol.com">Chill315@aol.com</A><SPAN class=yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>wrote:</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">We
all know the Ampex and RCA machines. A number of us have
seen other machines in use. So the question of the day
is.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What
other manufactures built quad
machine? </SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The
answer can not be a refurbished machine that was built on
someone else's platform. I know of two of the
manufactures. I do not know a third one but am
aware of the machine. There may be
more.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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