<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Bet Ampex got no money from this design. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><img height="320" width="308" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" id="1fe7a868-bfb3-4333-b009-20702d14d03d" src="cid:1128C6B4-CFB2-44FD-BE77-D042AE6A9B28"></div><div>Above: Non-free world VTR</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><div>David Crosthwait</div><div>DC Video</div><div>Archived Media Transfer and Re-mastering Services</div><div><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; ">177 West Magnolia Blvd.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; ">Burbank, CA. 91502</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; ">818-563-1073</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; ">818-563-1177 (fax)</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; ">818-285-9942 (cell)</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; "><a href="mailto:DAVID@DCVIDEO.COM">DAVID@DCVIDEO.COM</a></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; "><a href="http://www.dcvideo.com/">WWW.DCVIDEO.COM</a></span></font></div></div></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><br></font></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Bill Carpenter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Hi Folks,<br><br>The quad patent package was well controlled and also applied to helicals and continued through the mid 80's to the best of my knowledge. We made money on everybody that made a Quad and later a helical video recorder in the free world. <br>I have seen the product shipment reports for most manufacturers. <br>The Ginsberg patent related to the FM recording system and was the basis of the package.<br><br>Bye for now, Bill & Ginger (whoof...whoof)<br><br>--- On <b>Mon, 3/21/11, Don Norwood <i><<a href="mailto:dwnorwood@embarqmail.com">dwnorwood@embarqmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Don Norwood <<a href="mailto:dwnorwood@embarqmail.com">dwnorwood@embarqmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [QuadList] Another Jeporady Question-Quads not made by AmpexorRCA<br>To: "Quad List" <<a href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>><br>Date:
Monday, March 21, 2011, 9:19 AM<br><br><div id="yiv1988537642">
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<div>Hi Ted:</div>
<div> </div>
<div>By the time Merlin got thru with the machine, it had an Ampex headwheel,
Ampex audio heads and an Ampex pinch roller. Whether those were part of
the original Shibaden design I do not know. Ken Zin can probably tell
us.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>In the "fine print" of the question Chris originally asked, he did say only
original manufacturers that did not rely on the major parts of other
manufacturers. Some of these machines, like the Visual/Allen, would not
exist without the "big guy's" parts. On the other hand, machines like the
Bosch are clearly original. I think the intention was to explore
how many companies actually made quads from top to bottom. Otherwise, I
could be a "manufacturer" since I've built and sold machines made out of a
variety of parts. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Don </div>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
<div style="font: 10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228);"><b>From:</b>
<a rel="nofollow" title="ted@quadvideotapegroup.com" ymailto="mailto:ted@quadvideotapegroup.com" target="_blank" href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=ted@quadvideotapegroup.com">Ted Langdell</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="ted@quadvideotapegroup.com" ymailto="mailto:ted@quadvideotapegroup.com" target="_blank" href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=ted@quadvideotapegroup.com">Ted Langdell</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Cc:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com" ymailto="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com" target="_blank" href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">Quad List</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 21, 2011 11:15
AM</div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [QuadList] Another Jeporady
Question-Quads not made by AmpexorRCA</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Hi, Bill, </div>
<div><br></div>Sorry if the below sound a little sharp in reply... Not much
sleep. Too much going on.
<div><br></div>
<div>The Shibaden catalog pictures and text would be of great interest.
If you find it again, please try to scan and post.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Anyone else have some Shibaden info?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Ted</div>
<div><br>
<div>
<div>On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Ted Langdell wrote:</div><br class="yiv1988537642Apple-interchange-newline">
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<div style="word-wrap: break-word;">
<div>The Shibaden SV-7000 Quad used in the Merlin duplicating system
doesn't look like any RCA I've seen... </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>See the deck and some historic pictures at <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.labguysworld.com/Merlin_ME68.htm">http://www.labguysworld.com/Merlin_ME68.htm</a></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Don Norwood posted two different brochures for the system on June 3,
2009 (<span style="font-size: 14px;" class="yiv1988537642Apple-style-span"><b>Re: [QuadList]
Fwd: Merlinized Shibaden for Vidtronics' dub
system(wasToshiba))</b></span></div>
<div><b><br></b></div>
<div>Ted</div>
<div><br></div><br>
<div>
<div>On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:13 AM, <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bill.spencer@northstarstudios.tv" target="_blank" href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=bill.spencer@northstarstudios.tv">bill.spencer@northstarstudios.tv</a>>
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wrote:</div><br class="yiv1988537642Apple-interchange-newline">
<blockquote type="cite">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word;" lang="EN-US">
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">I
used to have a Shibaden catalog from the 70s that showed their quads and
they looked to be RCA clones if not rebadged RCA.</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"></span></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 10pt;">Bill
Spencer</span></div>
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Studios, Inc.</span></div>
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Dickerson Pike</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 10pt;">Nashville,
TN 37207</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 10pt;">(615)
650-6610</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 10pt;">CP
(615) 445-5616</span></div></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"></span></div>
<div>
<div style="border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top: 1pt solid rgb(181, 196, 223);">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com" target="_blank" href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>
[<a rel="nofollow" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" ymailto="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com" target="_blank" href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>]<span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ted
Langdell<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, March 21, 2011 8:28
AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span>Quad
List<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[QuadList] Another Jeporady Question-Quads not made by Ampex
orRCA</span></div></div></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;">2"
Quads:</div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"></div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;">Bosch<span class="yiv1988537642apple-tab-span"> <span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>(Germany)</div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;">Visual/Allen<span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv1988537642apple-tab-span"> <span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>(Bosch transport and heads
from Germany w/Visual/Allen Electronics from US)</div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;">Shibaden<span class="yiv1988537642apple-tab-span"> <span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>(Japan)</div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;">TAMCO<span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv1988537642apple-tab-span"> <span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>(Japanese partnership btw.
Ampex and Toshiba making Ampex designed machines in
Japan)</div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"></div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;">1"
Quad:</div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span class="yiv1988537642apple-tab-span"> <span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Asaka<span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv1988537642apple-tab-span"></span>(Japan) Company also known
as Asaka/ShibaSoku</div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"></div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;">Sony,
NHK made 2" Quad prototypes in Japan.</div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"></div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;">I
suspect there are more to be found. The hunt continues! (We
need some Japanese QuadList members!)</div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"></div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;">Ted</div></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"></div>
<div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;">On
Mar 21, 2011, at 5:56 AM,<span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" ymailto="mailto:Chill315@aol.com" target="_blank" href="x-msg://34/mc/compose?to=Chill315@aol.com">Chill315@aol.com</a><span class="yiv1988537642Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</div></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><br></div>
<div id="yiv1988537642role_body">
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: black; font-size: 10pt;">We
all know the Ampex and RCA machines. A number of us have seen other
machines in use. So the question of the day
is.</span></div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: black; font-size: 10pt;"></span></div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: black; font-size: 10pt;">What
other manufactures built quad machine? </span></div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: black; font-size: 10pt;"></span></div></div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: black; font-size: 10pt;">The
answer can not be a refurbished machine that was built on someone else's
platform. I know of two of the manufactures. I do not
know a third one but am aware of the machine. There may be
more.</span></div></div>
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