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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The TR-70 and earlier models did not have a real color frame
detector. I think you could record a special 4 field (and maybe 8 field) pulse
on the control track which could be used to reliably lock to the house
reference. (Am I right about this or am I missing something? ) You could see
the flickering pulse next to the frame pulse on the control track. That would work
for both record and playback decks, but you had to record this pulse initially
in order to use it. You would still have to do a test edit to get the phase
right. I’m not positive about this but I have seen this mode on several
models. The TR-600 had a real color frame detector and would actually detect
the phase of the input video with respect to the tape demod and lock
accordingly. When enabled, the deck would lock. Detect, and bump a frame if
necessary. If you were not particularly close to RS-170A, you could get caught
in the middle and bumping would continue. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com
[mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David
Crosthwait<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> videovault@sky.com; Quad List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [QuadList] Question of the week-RCA AE 6000 editor/TEP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Guy and Trevor,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Then I stand corrected. At the time I was working with TR
70's, I never saw the unit that Guy posted (thanks for the clarification by
Chris Hill!). Just the RCA programmers were the editor controlling the 70's in
Burbank during my tenure. Was the TEP smart enough to force color framing
during pre-roll? That's what took so long on the RCA programmers, which was
time code based (10 second on record).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><img width=320 height=240
id="_x0037_90b10de-82c0-413f-8c74-03239430e03c"
src="cid:image001.png@01CBDD75.07436300"><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>David<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Mar 8, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Trevor Brown wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Guy</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That’s what our TEP looked like</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I knew it was silver not black and you had to remember to switch
it to standby after the edit or it would stop the record when the counters were
full (10mins)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think it was the first time I had seen wire wrap construction</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Not a bad bit of kit just a bit slow by modern standards</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Two machine only no external events</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Just simple programmable cuts</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>TrevorB</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>UK member</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a
href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Guy Spiller<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>08 March 2011 14:06<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [QuadList]
Question of the week-RCA AE 6000 editor/TEP</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Here is a TEP.<image001.jpg><br>
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On 3/7/2011 5:50 PM,<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:Chill315@aol.com">Chill315@aol.com</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>This is not the TEP. That had thumb wheels only.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>This is actually a programmer that was made by ECCO for RCA.
It consisted of a number of parts. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>The top display was an auxiliary display panel.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>The Unit Programmer is the middle unit that is a couple of rack
units. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>The bottom was a transport control panel. </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>It was possibly a system that was first used on Laugh In.
Can someone confirm that?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Chris Hill</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>In a message dated 3/7/2011 5:31:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:david@dcvideo.com">david@dcvideo.com</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>writes:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Hello Trevor,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Thanks for the insight and the confirmation of similar problems
with the TR 600's. At least I can say now "It wasn't just me".</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>In regard to the TEP, here are two shots (for those who have no
idea what we are talking about):</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><image002.jpg><image003.jpg></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>The TEP actually worked pretty well with the TR-70's. However, it
was a 10 second pre-roll on the record VTR and five seconds on the source. Edit
2 and 3 at NBC Burbank had TEPs. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>David</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><a href="http://www.dcvideo.com/" title="http://www.dcvideo.com/">www.dcvideo.com</a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>On Mar 7, 2011, at 9:08 AM, Trevor Brown wrote:</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ted thanks for the heavy weight credit</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We had one three machine edit suite with equipped with
TR600’s</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If the crew leader had asked, do you want to go and try
and get the TR600’s to lock up</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>or go see the nurse she needs to stick pins in someone’s
eyes I might have opted for the nurse</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Like a lot of things the AE 600 was a good idea with poor
implementation</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It used an 8080 micro (big step up from RCA’s TEP is
anyone remembers it “Tape Editing Programmer”)</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Machines had to be pulled into sync, but unlike previous systems
that used TSO to speed up or slow down the capstan</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>and create major servo disturbances </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The AE 600 reprogrammed a counter chain in the capstan servo</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This was I think 4.3. 4 in pixlock and either 4.4.4 or
3.4.3 to speed the tape up or slow it down (cannot remember the original
numbers or what they were counting)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>So the lock to station sync slipped one way or the other without
major servo disturbances, and so station lock was a quick recovery process
after time pulling the time codes into the correct sync</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It was a poor lockup system and frequently failed</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Worst was the non standard logic to drive it, it was complex
with a mix needing the third machine to stagger start</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Numerous keystrokes and only an external event to drive the
mixer, so if the preview was OK you had to remember to reset the mixer or it
would toggle the wrong way on the print</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Add to that a ¼ tape deck (again external event fired) to lift
audio and mix it across the edit which again needed re cueing after a preview</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>and the operating alone could make grown men cry, before
machine lock up problems.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Easy to look at the director and ask is that what you wanted, it
was so long ago when you explained I have forgotten</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>and if you did like the P/V can I repeat it, I never smiled like
the guys in the picture</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Trevor B</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>UK Member</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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border-width:initial;border-color:initial'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com"
title="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a
href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Ted Langdell<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>07 March 2011 15:54<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Quad List<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [QuadList]
Question of the week-RCA AE 6000 editor</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Here's a shot of what looks very
much like a version of the AE-6000 in an RCA trade show booth:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a
href="http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600.jpg"
title="http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600.jpg">http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Perhaps someone on the list
remembers this particular booth?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Or the people in that shot or this
one:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a
href="http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600%28nab77%29.jpg"
title="http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600(nab77).jpg">http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600(nab77).jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The guy in the blue suit and
glasses could be the person sitting in the director's chair at the editor
console.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Ted<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Mar 7, 2011, at 7:36 AM, David
Crosthwait wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The answer is the <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
color:black'>RCA AE 6000 "Automatic Computerized Editing" </span></span><span
class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>devise.</span></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;
color:#FE6681'>"A new sophisticated editing system providing optimum
simplicity and efficiency to enhance creative expression".</span></i></span><span
class=apple-converted-space><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#FE6681'> </span></i></span><span
class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>(I've had some</span></span><span
class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'> </span></span><span
class=apple-style-span><i><span style='color:black'>"creative
expressions"</span></i></span><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'> </span></span><span
class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>when editing
with TR-600A's which cannot be printed here).</span></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><RCA AE 6000
bro1x.jpeg><RCA AE 6000 bro2x.jpeg><RCA AE 6000
bro3x.jpeg><RCA AE 6000 keyboard1.jpg><RCA AE 6000
screen1.jpg><RCA AE 6000x1.jpg><RCA AE 6000 bro4x.jpg><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I do not know if this product ever
came out, but certainly from what I can tell by pulling brochures from the DC
Video file cabinet is that I picked up this printed material in 1978 or so and
it appeared to be a real product. But I never heard of any implementation.
Perhaps the heavy weights here on the list i.e. Gary Adams, John Turner, Don
Norwood, Chris Hill, Trevor Brown and others who were associated with RCA gear
(perhaps the recipient of a sales pitch or two) could elaborate. If 1978 is an
accurate time period for this product to be marketed, then I think we have to
keep in mind what the competition was then i.e. Ampex ACE, CMX 340, ISC, Mach
1, and perhaps some others that I've failed to mention. If one looks at the CRT
display here, it's a bit convoluted compared to the industry standard at the
time (in my opinion), that being the CMX 340. So perhaps the RCA AE 6000 was a
little too late to come to market. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I once worked with a woman who had
just come from a religious network editing facility who had four TR-600A's tied
to (I think) a CMX edit system, and she swore by them. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>There were four 600As tied to a
CMX 340 (no AE-6000) in edit five at NBC Burbank, and those machines would move
tape very fast, even dual edit record under CMX control. However, they were not
very reliable in other aspects. That edit room had been originally projected to
have four AVR-3's, but an "upper level decision" placed the 600A's in
that project instead. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>One last note: The brochure
mentions that this editor has a "switcher control system designed to
interface with any 1600 series Grass Valley E-MEM equipped switcher" (did
not scan that page yet but can if someone wants to see it). I can't recall RCA
ever mentioning another major manufacturer in a brochure, although I could be
dead wrong. Perhaps this was a no brainer as RCA was (?) totally out of the
switcher business by then.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>David Crosthwait<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>DC Video<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a
href="http://www.dcvideo.com/obsolete-video-formats/2-inch-quad.html"
title="http://www.dcvideo.com/obsolete-video-formats/2-inch-quad.html">2"
quad transfers</a> and <a
href="http://www.dcvideo.com/obsolete-video-formats/2-inch-ampex-vr-660.html"
title="http://www.dcvideo.com/obsolete-video-formats/2-inch-ampex-vr-660.html">more...</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.dcvideo.com/"
title="http://www.dcvideo.com/">www.dcvideo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Not seen this before, but I'd say
it's an RCA multi-machine edit controller circa 1983-86. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Perhaps a product that didn't make
it into any facilities before the door was shut and Nipper's doghouse closed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Ted<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Looks like a
"super-duper" CMX type editing device for the TR-600 or above RCA
quads. BIG floppy drives to hold edit info (reminds me of the 4100 Chyron's).
Buttons and panels very similiar to the TR-600 edit system at Olympic
Broadcasting Studio in Chicago mid to late 70's. Machines had come from
Montreal Olympics, no 2 quite alike, what complete DOGS. Thankfully the truck
had HS-100!</span></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'><br>
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<span class=apple-style-span>Pat</span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Good stumper.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>It looks like it was done by either CDL or Telemation.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>The 5 inch disc drives give it a time frame of the 70's or early
80's.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>It has to be after the original CMX as the unit has some features
that were enhancements.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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You can clearly see the gold key as in 66 gold key 6 (Change Pal Phase)<br>
There should be a Blue key too (edit replay)<br>
Picture is a little burnt out to identify<br>
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Don't remember the 5 1/4 discs or the comments key board<span
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com"
title="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a><br>
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title="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>]
On Behalf Of David<br>
Crosthwait<br>
Sent: 04 March 2011 15:59<br>
To: Quad List<br>
Subject: Re: [QuadList] Question of the week<br>
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Here is a photo from the file cabinet.<br>
The questions for the contest are:<br>
What is it?<br>
What is the model number?<br>
Did anyone ever see one in action other than on the showroom floor?<span
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Was it a product that was "Dead On Arrival"?<br>
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Other documentation will be posted about what this is (or was supposed to<br>
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