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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ok let me put a PAL spin on it<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Play in machine in Pixlock so 4 field lock as set by the 12.5 edit pulse <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Record machine in Switch lock so 4 field lock from same edit pulse<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Don’t disturb the record machine after lock up or it might not lock up to edit pulses again<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So you get 4 field edits<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Remember when PAL came out we thought it was a 4 field system<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The problem was the sync to subcarrier could change as the day went on and if you edit to a different sync to subcarrier relationship the picture twitches 110ns max to correct<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So invisible edits were not possible only vision cuts could be edited<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Remember this was a world of fixed or variable edits (switch on the splice module)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Years on we discovered Pal had an 8 field sequence and field 4 had a different subcarrier to sync relationship to field 8<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>and then we had to define sync to subcarrier relationship in degrees for one of the fields<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It effected not only VT but SPG’s so the first 8 field SPG was the blue Seltech <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With two lights and you swung the subcarrier around until the two lights came on<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Difficult days for PAL users<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>By AE 600’s days we could swap field 8 and field 4 over 66 gold key 6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It might help it might not if you had a 55ns error then it was no use<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you had 100ns you could make 10ns with this command <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But we escaped drop time code and complex patches for Telecine<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So I suppose it had to rain a little in our lives<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>TrevorB<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>UK Member<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Gary Adams [mailto:garyada@ix.netcom.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 08 March 2011 14:44<br><b>To:</b> 'Quad List'; videovault@sky.com<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [QuadList] Question of the week-RCA AE 6000 editor/TEP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The TR-70 and earlier models did not have a real color frame detector. I think you could record a special 4 field (and maybe 8 field) pulse on the control track which could be used to reliably lock to the house reference. (Am I right about this or am I missing something? ) You could see the flickering pulse next to the frame pulse on the control track. That would work for both record and playback decks, but you had to record this pulse initially in order to use it. You would still have to do a test edit to get the phase right. I’m not positive about this but I have seen this mode on several models. The TR-600 had a real color frame detector and would actually detect the phase of the input video with respect to the tape demod and lock accordingly. When enabled, the deck would lock. Detect, and bump a frame if necessary. If you were not particularly close to RS-170A, you could get caught in the middle and bumping would continue. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com [mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Crosthwait<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> videovault@sky.com; Quad List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [QuadList] Question of the week-RCA AE 6000 editor/TEP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Guy and Trevor,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Then I stand corrected. At the time I was working with TR 70's, I never saw the unit that Guy posted (thanks for the clarification by Chris Hill!). Just the RCA programmers were the editor controlling the 70's in Burbank during my tenure. Was the TEP smart enough to force color framing during pre-roll? That's what took so long on the RCA programmers, which was time code based (10 second on record).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img width=320 height=240 id="_x0037_90b10de-82c0-413f-8c74-03239430e03c" src="cid:image001.png@01CBDDAF.AF60C0C0"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>David<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mar 8, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Trevor Brown wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Guy</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That’s what our TEP looked like</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I knew it was silver not black and you had to remember to switch it to standby after the edit or it would stop the record when the counters were full (10mins)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think it was the first time I had seen wire wrap construction</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Not a bad bit of kit just a bit slow by modern standards</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Two machine only no external events</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just simple programmable cuts</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>TrevorB</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>UK member</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Guy Spiller<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>08 March 2011 14:06<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [QuadList] Question of the week-RCA AE 6000 editor/TEP</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Here is a TEP.<image001.jpg><br><br>On 3/7/2011 5:50 PM,<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:Chill315@aol.com">Chill315@aol.com</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>This is not the TEP. That had thumb wheels only.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>This is actually a programmer that was made by ECCO for RCA. It consisted of a number of parts. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The top display was an auxiliary display panel.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The Unit Programmer is the middle unit that is a couple of rack units. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The bottom was a transport control panel. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>It was possibly a system that was first used on Laugh In. Can someone confirm that?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Chris Hill</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>In a message dated 3/7/2011 5:31:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:david@dcvideo.com">david@dcvideo.com</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>writes:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;z-index:auto'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br>Hello Trevor,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks for the insight and the confirmation of similar problems with the TR 600's. At least I can say now "It wasn't just me".</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>In regard to the TEP, here are two shots (for those who have no idea what we are talking about):</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><image002.jpg><image003.jpg></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The TEP actually worked pretty well with the TR-70's. However, it was a 10 second pre-roll on the record VTR and five seconds on the source. Edit 2 and 3 at NBC Burbank had TEPs. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>David</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.dcvideo.com/" title="http://www.dcvideo.com/">www.dcvideo.com</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Mar 7, 2011, at 9:08 AM, Trevor Brown wrote:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ted thanks for the heavy weight credit</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We had one three machine edit suite with equipped with TR600’s</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If the crew leader had asked, do you want to go and try and get the TR600’s to lock up</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>or go see the nurse she needs to stick pins in someone’s eyes I might have opted for the nurse</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Like a lot of things the AE 600 was a good idea with poor implementation</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It used an 8080 micro (big step up from RCA’s TEP is anyone remembers it “Tape Editing Programmer”)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Machines had to be pulled into sync, but unlike previous systems that used TSO to speed up or slow down the capstan</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>and create major servo disturbances </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The AE 600 reprogrammed a counter chain in the capstan servo</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This was I think 4.3. 4 in pixlock and either 4.4.4 or 3.4.3 to speed the tape up or slow it down (cannot remember the original numbers or what they were counting)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So the lock to station sync slipped one way or the other without major servo disturbances, and so station lock was a quick recovery process after time pulling the time codes into the correct sync</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It was a poor lockup system and frequently failed</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Worst was the non standard logic to drive it, it was complex with a mix needing the third machine to stagger start</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Numerous keystrokes and only an external event to drive the mixer, so if the preview was OK you had to remember to reset the mixer or it would toggle the wrong way on the print</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Add to that a ¼ tape deck (again external event fired) to lift audio and mix it across the edit which again needed re cueing after a preview</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>and the operating alone could make grown men cry, before machine lock up problems.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Easy to look at the director and ask is that what you wanted, it was so long ago when you explained I have forgotten</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>and if you did like the P/V can I repeat it, I never smiled like the guys in the picture</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Trevor B</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>UK Member</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com" title="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Ted Langdell<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>07 March 2011 15:54<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Quad List<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [QuadList] Question of the week-RCA AE 6000 editor</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Here's a shot of what looks very much like a version of the AE-6000 in an RCA trade show booth:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600.jpg" title="http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600.jpg">http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Perhaps someone on the list remembers this particular booth?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Or the people in that shot or this one:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600%28nab77%29.jpg" title="http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600(nab77).jpg">http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600(nab77).jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The guy in the blue suit and glasses could be the person sitting in the director's chair at the editor console.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Ted<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Mar 7, 2011, at 7:36 AM, David Crosthwait wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The answer is the <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>RCA AE 6000 "Automatic Computerized Editing" </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>devise.</span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#FE6681'>"A new sophisticated editing system providing optimum simplicity and efficiency to enhance creative expression".</span></i></span><span class=apple-converted-space><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#FE6681'> </span></i></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>(I've had some</span></span><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'> </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><i><span style='color:black'>"creative expressions"</span></i></span><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'> </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>when editing with TR-600A's which cannot be printed here).</span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><RCA AE 6000 bro1x.jpeg><RCA AE 6000 bro2x.jpeg><RCA AE 6000 bro3x.jpeg><RCA AE 6000 keyboard1.jpg><RCA AE 6000 screen1.jpg><RCA AE 6000x1.jpg><RCA AE 6000 bro4x.jpg><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I do not know if this product ever came out, but certainly from what I can tell by pulling brochures from the DC Video file cabinet is that I picked up this printed material in 1978 or so and it appeared to be a real product. But I never heard of any implementation. Perhaps the heavy weights here on the list i.e. Gary Adams, John Turner, Don Norwood, Chris Hill, Trevor Brown and others who were associated with RCA gear (perhaps the recipient of a sales pitch or two) could elaborate. If 1978 is an accurate time period for this product to be marketed, then I think we have to keep in mind what the competition was then i.e. Ampex ACE, CMX 340, ISC, Mach 1, and perhaps some others that I've failed to mention. If one looks at the CRT display here, it's a bit convoluted compared to the industry standard at the time (in my opinion), that being the CMX 340. So perhaps the RCA AE 6000 was a little too late to come to market. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I once worked with a woman who had just come from a religious network editing facility who had four TR-600A's tied to (I think) a CMX edit system, and she swore by them. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>There were four 600As tied to a CMX 340 (no AE-6000) in edit five at NBC Burbank, and those machines would move tape very fast, even dual edit record under CMX control. However, they were not very reliable in other aspects. That edit room had been originally projected to have four AVR-3's, but an "upper level decision" placed the 600A's in that project instead. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>One last note: The brochure mentions that this editor has a "switcher control system designed to interface with any 1600 series Grass Valley E-MEM equipped switcher" (did not scan that page yet but can if someone wants to see it). I can't recall RCA ever mentioning another major manufacturer in a brochure, although I could be dead wrong. Perhaps this was a no brainer as RCA was (?) totally out of the switcher business by then.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>David Crosthwait<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>DC Video<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.dcvideo.com/obsolete-video-formats/2-inch-quad.html" title="http://www.dcvideo.com/obsolete-video-formats/2-inch-quad.html">2" quad transfers</a> and <a href="http://www.dcvideo.com/obsolete-video-formats/2-inch-ampex-vr-660.html" title="http://www.dcvideo.com/obsolete-video-formats/2-inch-ampex-vr-660.html">more...</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.dcvideo.com/" title="http://www.dcvideo.com/">www.dcvideo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Not seen this before, but I'd say it's an RCA multi-machine edit controller circa 1983-86. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Perhaps a product that didn't make it into any facilities before the door was shut and Nipper's doghouse closed.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Ted<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Looks like a "super-duper" CMX type editing device for the TR-600 or above RCA quads. BIG floppy drives to hold edit info (reminds me of the 4100 Chyron's). Buttons and panels very similiar to the TR-600 edit system at Olympic Broadcasting Studio in Chicago mid to late 70's. Machines had come from Montreal Olympics, no 2 quite alike, what complete DOGS. Thankfully the truck had HS-100!</span></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br><span class=apple-style-span>Pat</span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Good stumper.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>It looks like it was done by either CDL or Telemation.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The 5 inch disc drives give it a time frame of the 70's or early 80's.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>It has to be after the original CMX as the unit has some features that were enhancements.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Have no idea other than that.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Chris Hill</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>_________________</span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Trevor Brown wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Looks like an RCA AE600 edit panel<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>You can clearly see the gold key as in 66 gold key 6 (Change Pal Phase)<br>There should be a Blue key too (edit replay)<br>Picture is a little burnt out to identify<br><br>Don't remember the 5 1/4 discs or the comments key board<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><br>TrevorB<br>UK member<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com" title="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a><br>[<a href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com" title="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>] On Behalf Of David<br>Crosthwait<br>Sent: 04 March 2011 15:59<br>To: Quad List<br>Subject: Re: [QuadList] Question of the week<br><br>Here is a photo from the file cabinet.<br>The questions for the contest are:<br>What is it?<br>What is the model number?<br>Did anyone ever see one in action other than on the showroom floor?<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>Was it a product that was "Dead On Arrival"?<br><br>Other documentation will be posted about what this is (or was supposed to<br>be) once the questions have been answered.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><br><br><br></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><pre><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br><br><br></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span 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