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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ted thanks for the heavy weight credit<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We had one three machine edit suite with equipped with TR600’s<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If the crew leader had asked, do you want to go and try and get the TR600’s to lock up<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>or go see the nurse she needs to stick pins in someone’s eyes I might have opted for the nurse<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Like a lot of things the AE 600 was a good idea with poor implementation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It used an 8080 micro (big step up from RCA’s TEP is anyone remembers it “Tape Editing Programmer”)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Machines had to be pulled into sync, but unlike previous systems that used TSO to speed up or slow down the capstan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>and create major servo disturbances <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The AE 600 reprogrammed a counter chain in the capstan servo <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This was I think 4.3. 4 in pixlock and either 4.4.4 or 3.4.3 to speed the tape up or slow it down (cannot remember the original numbers or what they were counting)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So the lock to station sync slipped one way or the other without major servo disturbances, and so station lock was a quick recovery process after time pulling the time codes into the correct sync<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It was a poor lockup system and frequently failed<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Worst was the non standard logic to drive it, it was complex with a mix needing the third machine to stagger start<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Numerous keystrokes and only an external event to drive the mixer, so if the preview was OK you had to remember to reset the mixer or it would toggle the wrong way on the print<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Add to that a ¼ tape deck (again external event fired) to lift audio and mix it across the edit which again needed re cueing after a preview<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>and the operating alone could make grown men cry, before machine lock up problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Easy to look at the director and ask is that what you wanted, it was so long ago when you explained I have forgotten<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>and if you did like the P/V can I repeat it, I never smiled like the guys in the picture<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Trevor B<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>UK Member<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com [mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ted Langdell<br><b>Sent:</b> 07 March 2011 15:54<br><b>To:</b> Quad List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [QuadList] Question of the week-RCA AE 6000 editor<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Here's a shot of what looks very much like a version of the AE-6000 in an RCA trade show booth:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600.jpg">http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Perhaps someone on the list remembers this particular booth?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Or the people in that shot or this one:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600(nab77).jpg">http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tr600(nab77).jpg</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The guy in the blue suit and glasses could be the person sitting in the director's chair at the editor console.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ted<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mar 7, 2011, at 7:36 AM, David Crosthwait wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The answer is the <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>RCA AE 6000 "Automatic Computerized Editing" </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>devise.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#FE6681'>"A new sophisticated editing system providing optimum simplicity and efficiency to enhance creative expression". </span></i></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>(I've had some </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><i>"creative expressions"</i></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> when editing with TR-600A's which cannot be printed here).</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><RCA AE 6000 bro1x.jpeg><RCA AE 6000 bro2x.jpeg><RCA AE 6000 bro3x.jpeg><RCA AE 6000 keyboard1.jpg><RCA AE 6000 screen1.jpg><RCA AE 6000x1.jpg><RCA AE 6000 bro4x.jpg><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I do not know if this product ever came out, but certainly from what I can tell by pulling brochures from the DC Video file cabinet is that I picked up this printed material in 1978 or so and it appeared to be a real product. But I never heard of any implementation. Perhaps the heavy weights here on the list i.e. Gary Adams, John Turner, Don Norwood, Chris Hill, Trevor Brown and others who were associated with RCA gear (perhaps the recipient of a sales pitch or two) could elaborate. If 1978 is an accurate time period for this product to be marketed, then I think we have to keep in mind what the competition was then i.e. Ampex ACE, CMX 340, ISC, Mach 1, and perhaps some others that I've failed to mention. If one looks at the CRT display here, it's a bit convoluted compared to the industry standard at the time (in my opinion), that being the CMX 340. So perhaps the RCA AE 6000 was a little too late to come to market. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I once worked with a woman who had just come from a religious network editing facility who had four TR-600A's tied to (I think) a CMX edit system, and she swore by them. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There were four 600As tied to a CMX 340 (no AE-6000) in edit five at NBC Burbank, and those machines would move tape very fast, even dual edit record under CMX control. However, they were not very reliable in other aspects. That edit room had been originally projected to have four AVR-3's, but an "upper level decision" placed the 600A's in that project instead. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>One last note: The brochure mentions that this editor has a "switcher control system designed to interface with any 1600 series Grass Valley E-MEM equipped switcher" (did not scan that page yet but can if someone wants to see it). I can't recall RCA ever mentioning another major manufacturer in a brochure, although I could be dead wrong. Perhaps this was a no brainer as RCA was (?) totally out of the switcher business by then.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>David Crosthwait<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>DC Video<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.dcvideo.com/obsolete-video-formats/2-inch-quad.html">2" quad transfers</a> and <a href="http://www.dcvideo.com/obsolete-video-formats/2-inch-ampex-vr-660.html">more...</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.dcvideo.com/">www.dcvideo.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Not seen this before, but I'd say it's an RCA multi-machine edit controller circa 1983-86. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Perhaps a product that didn't make it into any facilities before the door was shut and Nipper's doghouse closed.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ted<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Looks like a "super-duper" CMX type editing device for the TR-600 or above RCA quads. BIG floppy drives to hold edit info (reminds me of the 4100 Chyron's). Buttons and panels very similiar to the TR-600 edit system at Olympic Broadcasting Studio in Chicago mid to late 70's. Machines had come from Montreal Olympics, no 2 quite alike, what complete DOGS. Thankfully the truck had HS-100!</span></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br><span class=apple-style-span>Pat</span></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Good stumper.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>It looks like it was done by either CDL or Telemation.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The 5 inch disc drives give it a time frame of the 70's or early 80's.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>It has to be after the original CMX as the unit has some features that were enhancements.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Have no idea other than that.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Chris Hill<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>_________________</span></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Trevor Brown wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Looks like an RCA AE600 edit panel <br>You can clearly see the gold key as in 66 gold key 6 (Change Pal Phase)<br>There should be a Blue key too (edit replay)<br>Picture is a little burnt out to identify<br><br>Don't remember the 5 1/4 discs or the comments key board <br><br>TrevorB<br>UK member<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a><br>[<a href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>] On Behalf Of David<br>Crosthwait<br>Sent: 04 March 2011 15:59<br>To: Quad List<br>Subject: Re: [QuadList] Question of the week<br><br>Here is a photo from the file cabinet.<br>The questions for the contest are:<br>What is it?<br>What is the model number?<br>Did anyone ever see one in action other than on the showroom floor? <br>Was it a product that was "Dead On Arrival"?<br><br>Other documentation will be posted about what this is (or was supposed to<br>be) once the questions have been answered. <br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Please trim posts to relevant info when replying!<br>Send QuadList list posts to <a href="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com">QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com</a><br>Your subscribe, unsubscribe and digest options are here:<br><a href="http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listinfo/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com">http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listinfo/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Please trim posts to relevant info when replying!<br>Send QuadList list posts to <a href="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com">QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com</a><br>Your subscribe, unsubscribe and digest options are here:<br><a href="http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listinfo/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com">http://mail.quadvideotapegroup.com/mailman/listinfo/quadlist_quadvideotapegroup.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><span class=apple-style-span>Ted Langdell</span></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Secretary</span></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Skype: </span></span><span class=apple-tab-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>TedLangdell</span></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>e-mail:</span></span><span class=apple-tab-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:ted@quadvideotapegroup.com">ted@quadvideotapegroup.com</a></span></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>