<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi, Phillip!<div><br></div><div>Great post, and many thanks for the added knowledge.</div><div><br></div><div>What can you tell us about the TBC used in the TR-800? Was it a modular plug in like the BVH-2000's had? Did RCA design it?</div><div><br></div><div>You note:</div><div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div bgcolor="#ffffff"><div style="font-size: 16px; "><font size="2" face="Arial" style="font-size: 13px; ">The second Shop Order of Tr-800 used a TBC from Florida...</font></div></div></span></blockquote><br></div><div>Can you elaborate a bit? What was the "second Shop Order" and what TBC was used?</div><div><br></div><div>What about scanner assemblies: The Type C page on Wikipedia contains the assertion that "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "> the scanner assembly and upper drum could be replaced with Sony BVH-1100A parts.</span>"</div><div><br></div><div>Were there other Sony parts that interchanged?</div><div><br></div><div>Ray Baldock's LinkedIn profile shows he worked for RCA until August, 1985, but began working for Sony on its Betacart system in May of 1985. Was there an RCA/Sony collaboration happening on cart machine development?</div><div><br></div><div>And you write:</div><div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div bgcolor="#ffffff"><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small; ">I did save the Ampex VPR-3 from been rejected by NBC-NY</span></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">(Bancroft was Ampex Field Engineer)</font></div></div></span></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>What can you tell us about that?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Ted</div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 23, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Phillip G. Shaw wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div bgcolor="#ffffff"><div>[Quote]The first TR 800's I saw were in the QV remote truck. But the problems with reliability were so bad that RCA assigned an engineer during one remote in Vegas who did nothing but sit by the VTR door and waited for one of us to yell "help, we have a runaway!".[/quote]</div><div> </div><div>I was that Engineer in Vegas & Denver Mile high The problem was that RCA had a bunch of Post Production (film type) design a remote control (copy of Ampex HS100 Slo- mo) and they where trying to use it for NFL Replay ,, 6 button combinations to push, upper/lower case, to store points in a story line process.. The Marketing folks didn't have a clue... they had requested software updates, from engineering, to speed up the machine cueing speed (after all that time spent storing shit on the remote & operator Screwup) the tape was almost jumping off the scanner... A simple "in point", trim and cue was all the NFL-Live needed. In those days the button/function people had stupid expectations because of a lack of experence of Live Network Broadcasting</div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">It has been said on this Board that NBC did not try TR800's.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">"NOT True"</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">NBC NYC did have 2ea TR800's installed on the 5th floor. Special NBC consols were designed. I was the RCA Engineer that was sent to NBC to cure a thermal problem with the TBC.. The RCA design Engineer, Jim Parker was absolutly brilliant, but refused to use the normal practice of bypassing the TBC in EE .. the NBC operators saw vector jitter(CB) in EE and it was impossible to fix..NBC sent the Machines back ( I told Steve Bonica the truth & was offered a Job at NBC ) The second Shop Order of Tr-800 used a TBC from Florida...</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Ray Baldock worked on the TR-800 Factory QC in 1981..</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">He was part of a group from UK / Jersey Isle working for Peter Dare (later Sony) in the factory to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><font size="2" face="Arial">ship the first production of 6 Machines<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><font size="2" face="Arial">to South America by Dec 15th 1981.. They failed!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><font size="2" face="Arial">and Dare left RCA.. Ray worked on the design of Silver Lake<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><font size="2" face="Arial">(Cart Machine replacement for TCR 100) and he went to Odetics when RCA Closed..</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Note: Three of us from Tech Alert set up an Engineering factory Audit.. The factory shipped to Audit and we fixed</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">all the faults before shipping to Customers. The first TR 800</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">had > 2000 Engineering Change Orders, it was a nightmare.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">We feed back the faults to the factory but they didn't change anything, actually thing got worse.. Broadcast moved to Gibbsboro</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">I did save the Ampex VPR-3 from been rejected by NBC-NY</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">(Bancroft was Ampex Field Engineer)</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Phillip G. 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