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<font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">The same sort of 7 second delay was implemented by NBC Burbank using two RCA TR 70B's which I saw in use on a live (to the East) George Schlatter program. 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Just kidding of course, but we did a 7 second delay at CBS years ago with two 2000's and some rollers and springs and the machines were almost in place but we had to adjust them with a "Johnson Bar". I should have taken a foto.</div> <div> </div> <div>Later on we used a Betacart with someone's off the wall software to provide the 2 and 3 hour delays for the network. I think Sony raised Hell about using the software, but something was worked out between them and CBS, I only heard about that through scuttlebut.</div> <div> </div> <div>George Keller<br> <br> </div> <div style="CLEAR: both"></div> <br> <br> <div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Ted Langdell <<a href="mailto:ted@quadvideotapegroup.com">ted@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>><br> To: Quad List <<a href="mailto:QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com">QuadList@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>><br> Cc: oldvtrs <<a href="mailto:oldvtrs@yahoogroups.com">oldvtrs@yahoogroups.com</a>><br> Sent: Tue, Nov 30, 2010 2:04 pm<br> Subject: [QuadList] Happy Anniversary--CBS Uses Quad to Time Zone Delay Douglas Edwards' Evening Newscast<br> <br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_3_0f7d9b13-0dd3-4837-82b7-069d026c123d"> <div>Happy 55th Anniversary of the first network use of Quad in Time Zone Delay... which is regarded as Quad's first use in an broadcast setting.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Here's the famous picture of CBS Engineer John Radis bending over a transport </div> <div>in the CBS Television City tape room on Beverly Blvd. in Hollywood. </div> <div>The recorder captured the network feed of "Douglas Edwards and the News" </div> <div>as it was aired live in New York, and replayed the broadcast three hours later to the CBS Pacific network.</div> <div><br> </div> <div><span><CBS-TVC-Engineer-John_Radis-At-VTR.jpg></span></div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div><br> </div> <div>The CBS tape room in Television City was a busy place after that.</div> <div>Looks like it might be John Radis at the VTR in the foreground:</div> <div><span><CBS-TVC Tape Room-WallOfTVC.jpg></span></div> </div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div>I photographed this picture on a wall at TVC </div> <div>during a 2006 tour that CBS Telecine operator David Keleshian </div> <div>arranged for members of the Telecine Internet Group.</div> <div><br> </div> </div> </div> <div>CBS's lead in using tape for Time Zone Delay was followed</div> <div>by NBC at the start of 1957, according to a 1981 article by </div> <div>Charles Ginsburg, the leader of Ampex's Quad development team.</div> <div>ABC began doing TZD at the change to Daylight Saving time in '57.</div> </div> <div><br> </div> </div> <div>The very first VTR seen in public was Ampex's Mark IV prototype, </div> <div>demonstrated to a group of CBS affiliates at the 1956 National Radio and</div> <div>Television Broadcasters convention in Chicago. </div> <div><span><AmpexMarkIV-Quad-CBSDemo-NARTB-1956.jpg></span></div> <div><br> </div> <div>23 years later, this same machine was retired at CBS-TVC,</div> <div>as reported in the caption for this picture...</div> <div><br> </div> <div><span><AmpexVTR1-AtCBS-TVCRetired.jpg></span></div> <div><br> </div> <div>that appeared in Broadcast Engineering, May 1981. It accompanied</div> <div>an article marking the 25th Anniversary of the Quad format, </div> <div>written by Charles P. Ginsburg, who headed the Ampex development team.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>In this photo Joe Roizen of Telegen (L) and CBS TVC manager of Videotape Recording</div> <div>Charles Mesak (R) flank the historic equipment. </div> <div>BE credited the photo to CBS and Donna Foster-Roizen.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>One has to wonder where this particular machine went.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>So, hoist one for the first generation of Quad engineers... the ones that made the equipment work at Ampex, and the ones like John and Charles (and you!) that made it work on the air.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Ted</div> <br> <div><span style="font-size: 14px; " class="Apple-style-span"> </span><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; "> <div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" size="3" face="Helvetica">Ted Langdell</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" size="3" face="Helvetica">Secretary, <a href="http://www.quadvideotapegroup.com/" target="_blank">Quad Videotape Group</a></font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: rgb(0,24,234)" color="#0018ea" size="3" face="Helvetica"></font></div> </div> </div><span style="font-size: 14px; " class="Apple-style-span"> </span></div> <br> </div> <!-- end of AOLMsgPart_3_0f7d9b13-0dd3-4837-82b7-069d026c123d --> <div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; MARGIN: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 12px" id="AOLMsgPart_8_0f7d9b13-0dd3-4837-82b7-069d026c123d"><pre style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><tt>_______________________________________________
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