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observed the process while attending RCA school at <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Burbank</st1:place></st1:City>. NBC also came up with the 15Hz
control track pulse so the edits would always be on the same frame sequence for
color framing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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speed thread that once they recorded two tapes and one was a few seconds longer
than the other. We ran into that apparent problem during the mono to
color transition and it was the diameter of the counter roller that caused the
apparent error. They were calibrated for 30fps and 29.97fps caused a 3.6
second error per hour. We just learned to adjust the time given to
traffic so the show wouldn’t get cut off at the end. Later, they
came out with electronic counter retrofits that were calibrated for ‘color
time’ and the problem went away until automation where a few frames will
mess things up! Enter drop frame timecode and all is well! HI, HI (The
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com
[mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Thomas, Stephen D<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 28, 2010
12:36 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Quad
List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [QuadList] Laugh-In (was
"Assemble edits vs Insert edits")</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>David,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Thank you for explaining the process you
went through with the shows at NBC Burbank, where I was born (coincidentally)
in December 1956. I’m sure it was of interest to many on the list,
including myself. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Did you happen to work on “Rowen
and Martin’s Laugh-In?” Wikipedia describes the edit process
like this: “</span></font><span lang=EN>The show was pre-recorded
at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC" title=NBC>NBC</a>'s <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burbank,_CA" title="Burbank, CA">Burbank</a>
Facility. Since timecode-controlled videotape editing had not been invented at
the time, montage was achieved by the error-prone method of <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_video_editing"
title="Linear video editing">physical splicing</a> of the two-inch <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadraplex" title=Quadraplex>quadraplex</a>
tape. This had the incidental benefit of ensuring that the master tape would be
preserved, since a spliced tape could not be recycled for further use. <i><span
style='font-style:italic'>Laugh-In</span></i> Editor <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Schneider" title="Arthur Schneider">Arthur
Schneider</a> won an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmy_Award"
title="Emmy Award">Emmy Award</a> in 1968 for his pioneering use of the
"jump cut" -- the unique editing style in which a sudden cut from one
shot to another was made without a fade-out.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>I have read elsewhere that the show was
kinescoped and the film was edited into a rough-cut that was later used to edit
the videotape. Could you elaborate further on this complex process?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><em><b><i><font size=4 color=navy face="Arial Black"><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial Black";color:navy;font-weight:bold'>Steve
Thomas</span></font></i></b></em><b><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:bold'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black;font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>SENIOR EDITOR and
TECHNICAL DIRECTOR<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>phone: </span></font><font
size=1 color=maroon face=Verdana><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:maroon'>248.351.7905</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>e-mail: </span></font><font
size=1 color=blue face=Verdana><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:blue'><a href="mailto:sdthomas@cbs.com">sdthomas@cbs.com</a></span></font><font
color=blue><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>"This user thinks that <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>there</span></b> are too many people who don’t know
that <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>they’re</span></b> worse than <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>their</span></b> own children at spelling!"</span></font><font
color=maroon><span style='color:maroon'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com
[mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>dcfwtx@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 28, 2010
1:14 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [QuadList] Assemble
edits vs Insert edits (wasOMG!!!!)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>George and all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Depending on the nature of the edit
session and the time factor (how close to air time), edit sessions were insert
(on time-code black tapes as NBC used to call it) or assemble. For example, in
the late 70's, I worked (recorded and then edited) a load of NBC game shows
(Hollywood Squares, Password Plus, Card Sharks, etc.) all on 2". If the show
was a total rebuild (in the case of severe show disruptions due to gaming
problems, other production issues, or technical glitches-rare in <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Burbank</st1:City></st1:place>), the session
would be built on time-code black tapes as an insert session. This was usually
in edit two (TR 70B's with the RCA/EECO single event edit controller) or in
edit three (TR 70C's with the RCA/EECO single event edit controller). Both
rooms had a GVG 1600 switcher and access to an HS 200. If it was a simple pull
up session, assemble edits were the fastest way to get the show done. Simply
one copy (two were made at show time) was added/pulled up to the other copy,
thereby generating an edit master to time. All 2" stock as 3M 400 or 420.
The edit master was dubbed to three other tapes when finished. The EM and a dub
went to 30 Rock, the other two were for <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Burbank</st1:City></st1:place>.
Game shows were never a situation where it was close to air. They were taped 5
per day (with a meal break), several weeks in advance. On the other hand, The
Tonight Show was rarely a rebuild as the turnaround was too close. It was
either spliced or assembled edit (as in a pull up). The turnaround time was
much more critical when the show was ninety minutes as opposed to the later
sixty-minute shows (thanks to Johnny's contract modification in the early
80's). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>One cottage industry at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Burbank</st1:City></st1:place> was the creation of time-code black
tapes (known as crystal black or black&coded tapes at some other
facilities). Jake (at that time) would come in and load up every available
2" machine (there were about 40 in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Burbank</st1:City></st1:place>)
and record time-code-black tapes all night (all six Ampex machines and all the
TR 70's and 600's). That's all he did from about 11P to 7A. A lot of 3M 2"
stock was consumed overnight, both new and low-pass. He did a great job in
assessing the TCB's on hand and what was needed (30, 60, and 90 minute
loads). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>The entire edit department in conjunction
with zone delay and production VTRs was well organized at that time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>-----Original
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From: georgenann@aol.com<br>
To: quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com<br>
Sent: Thu, Jan 28, 2010 8:16 am<br>
Subject: [QuadList] OMG!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Just received the following from Ted,
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Hi, George, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:30 PM, <a
href="mailto:georgenann@aol.com">georgenann@aol.com</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><span style='orphans: 2;
widows: 2;webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px;webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;
webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'>Also if I remember correctly,
at least with the Ampex machines the cap actualy freeruns momentarily in
an assemble edit. Also I think this is the reason that at least at
CBS insert edits were never used, always used insert edits. I think this
stigma has stuck around for some time, even though insert edits are now OK with
the newer machines.</span></span></font></b></strong><font color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Did you mean to say "... at least at
CBS <i><span style='font-style:italic'>assemble</span></i> edits were
never used," and "even though assemble edits are now OK with the
newer machines"?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Ted<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>My computer put in the wrong word, it
must have been confused. Had I proof read that e-mail it should have
said "<strong><b><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>CBS
ASSEMBLE EDITS WERE NEVER USED."</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>ALso there two "L's" in
actually, I apologize for that one also.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Thanks to Ted and apologies if this
caused loss of sleep or hypertension among the group.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>73,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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