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In a message dated 1/28/2010 1:36:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, dbingley@rock95.com writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">As I mentioned in an earlier post, our older machines did not have Editec<BR>
although they used electronic editing. The electronic editor had the<BR>
nomenclature PP which we human editors said stood for "Push and Pray." The<BR>
machine did not go into full edit until about 3/4 of a second after hitting<BR>
record and play, so you had to anticipate the edit point. You could run<BR>
through the potential edit a couple of times to see if you had the timing<BR>
right, but when you finally made the edit it was all up to your reflexes. No<BR>
second chance. <BR>
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I always hated the fact that even with the Editor switched in, you had to<BR>
hit a button that said "Record" It never seemed right to me. It seemed that<BR>
the button should have said "EDIT" <B>That is exactly the same system I used at KCOP in Los Angeles 1977-1979. Six VR 2000's and this hybrid/home-brew edit system. Minus 5 or 10 (I don't remember). Kris Trexler (and other ex KCOP lurkers to this list) have similar stories I'm sure. As you said the red record light would be lit. You didn't know how the edit turned out till playback. Your setting of tach phase was part of the pre-edit drama, watching that stab. dot on the third serration in demod cross-pulse. </B><BR>
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Even the later Editecs and EECO editing systems left lots of room for<BR>
operator error. The worst sin was to try to do go back to do an insert edit<BR>
in the middle of a completed show with the editor switched to assemble. Very<BR>
bad..even worse was forgetting to switch in the editor at all, resulting in<BR>
the machine going into full record about 10 seconds before the desired edit<BR>
point.Very, very bad. <B>Yes, the nightmares are with us all...</B><BR>
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We used to do a variety show taped before a live audience. The next day I<BR>
would insert video clips of the performances from later in the show into the<BR>
pre-voiced show intro (Announcer: Tommy's guests are Anne Murray, Joe<BR>
Schlunk, etc. Video- Quick camera cuts of performers.) <BR>
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So that we did not have to go down a generation we would transfer the video<BR>
of the performances to a second machine, then edit the video back to the<BR>
master during the intro sequence. You better believe I was extra careful to<BR>
check all of the switch positions before hitting the record/play buttons! <B>I think we all (years later) have those same, recurring bad dreams of "hard records" where they should not have been.</B><BR>
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If an edit suite was not booked we would record black and time code onto<BR>
both machines during the down-time. When we reused tapes we would first run<BR>
them through on fast forward with our fingers on both sides of the tape to<BR>
check for edge damage. <B>Thank fully, that was Jake's job. I'm in contact with him (ex NBC Burbank). I'll have him add something here sometime.</B><BR>
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During record we were supposed to sit around for an hour listening for a<BR>
head to zing, indicating a problem tape, but usually we would sneak out for<BR>
a <U>beer</U>.. I loved my NABET card. <B>On another day (and thread), we should all talk about the watering holes adjacent to television facilities. I personally know of the ones walking distance to 3000 West Alameda. I believe there is a famous one across the street from TV City, Hollywood. Liquid refreshment somehow had strong ties to on-the-job activities back then (usually off-the-lot, except during Christmas parties...).</B><BR>
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David<BR>
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