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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>David<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The older tapes did not have backing problems I agree<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It was the newer ones that produced the better signal to noise <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Memorex early chroma 90 was Ok then it got better and better at
signal to noise and then hit the white powder<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Scotch 400 was ok then they developed the better signal to noise
tape the 420 and hit the same problem<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ok on the operators some need shooting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Same for editors that left the guide in auto<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Or did not track the tape up when insert editing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It was a mine field and as you say experience steer us as we
sort the problems one by one<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Trevor Brown<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com
[mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dcfwtx@aol.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 August 2009 20:50<br>
<b>To:</b> quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [QuadList] Andy Williams (was Question about PAL-M Quad
players)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I never had any real problems with the Scotch 179/379 brown
stock on Andy Williams <span class=MsoHyperlink>LBC</span>'<span
class=MsoHyperlink>s</span> using the <span class=MsoHyperlink>AVR</span>-1.
And this went back to show # 1 in 1962. Each make of stock has predictable
issues and our experience base automatically steers us in the preparation
process. I have seen some very butchered up transfers out of another local
house done in the 80'<span class=MsoHyperlink>s</span> where apparently someone
either wasn't watching the transfer or just was wasn't technically proficient.
We know what to expect with regard to some <span class=MsoHyperlink>LBC</span>
recordings from certain network facilities. It just comes with the job. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I never had to bake Scotch 179/379 stock as it'<span
class=MsoHyperlink>s</span> binder is not conducive to stickiness in my
experience. <span class=MsoHyperlink>Chroma</span> 90, later 400, 420, and <span
class=MsoHyperlink>Ampex</span> stock is another issue. I do realize that
everyone has had different experiences around the globe.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>David <span class=MsoHyperlink>Crosthwait</span></span></span><span
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: bill.spencer@northstarstudios.tv<br>
To: videovault@sky.com; quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com<br>
Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 8:29 am<br>
Subject: Re: [QuadList] Andy Williams (was Question about PAL-<span
class=MsoHyperlink>M</span> Quad players)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Having personally transferred many of the Andy Williams tapes from
the 60ā<span class=MsoHyperlink>s</span> on old brown <span class=MsoHyperlink>3M</span>
I will tell you that it was a challenge, but through baking and cleaning we got
the powder (which is <span class=MsoHyperlink>hyaluronic</span> acid from the
moisture reaction with the binder) off and made good transfers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Iā<span class=MsoHyperlink>m</span> still fighting some <span
class=MsoHyperlink>Ampex</span> 195 that is more like chewing gum than tape!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Bill Spencer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'><span class=MsoHyperlink>RF</span> Engineering Supervisor</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'><span class=MsoHyperlink>NorthStar</span> Studios, Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>email <a href="mailto:bill.spencer@northstarstudios.tv">bill.spencer@northstarstudios.tv</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</a>
[<span class=MsoHyperlink>mailto</span>:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Trevor Brown<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 28, 2009 10:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:DCFWTX@aol.com">DCFWTX@aol.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Quad List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [QuadList] Andy Williams (was Question about PA L-<span
class=MsoHyperlink>M</span> Quad players)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>David</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It was rumored that Andy Williams show ran into White Powder
clogs (not involved only a story) and could not be recovered</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I will see if I can track the source of the story down</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have never had either a <span class=MsoHyperlink>Chroma</span>
90 or <span class=MsoHyperlink>3m</span>ā<span class=MsoHyperlink>s</span> 420
that I could not recover, worst case is it came off in sections and needed a
little editing</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>BBC engineers made a Christmas tape called White Powder
Christmas (<span class=MsoHyperlink>chroma</span> 90) and another called Good
king <span class=MsoHyperlink>Memorex</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Seems to have be taken of you tube, but rip scratch from Good
king <span class=MsoHyperlink>Memorex</span> is still on the VT old Boys site</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.vtoldboys.com/gkm01.htm" target="_blank">http://www.vtoldboys.com/gkm01.htm#</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Trevor Brown</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:DCFWTX@aol.com">DCFWTX@aol.com</a> [<span class=MsoHyperlink>mailto</span>:DCFWTX@aol.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 August 2009 14:01<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:videovault@sky.com">videovault@sky.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [QuadList] Andy Williams (was Question about PAL-<span
class=MsoHyperlink>M</span> Quad players)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In a message dated 8/28/2009 3:31:58 AM
Pacific Daylight Time, <a href="mailto:videovault@sky.com">videovault@sky.com</a>
writes:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Also
be interested in how old the PAL <span class=MsoHyperlink>M</span> tapes are
and what stock they were recorded on old tape do suffer moisture, and of course
420 and <span class=MsoHyperlink>Chroma</span> 90 had white powder problems in
the UK<br>
<br>
Again interested to know if the USA had similar problems, was this not what
killed the Andy Williams show recovery</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>
Are you sure about this? I transferred several hundred Andy Williams shows
several years ago for Andy'<span class=MsoHyperlink>s</span> son Bobby. Very
few of them were on <span class=MsoHyperlink>Memorex</span> <span
class=MsoHyperlink>Chroma</span> 90 (a known sticky tape source), and I never
encountered one that I could not fully recover. <br>
<br>
Just curious to know about this story.<br>
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Be st Regards,<br>
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<br>
David <span class=MsoHyperlink>Crosthwait</span><br>
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