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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Can
I throw in my thoughts living in a PAL county (UK)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>TR600’s
were very modular and I am sure that Pal M boards existed however it not a
reliable machine and has very tight digital servo’s which might not be
ideal for archive recovery<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The
subcarrier frequency for PAL M is 3.575612 MHz.  I would have thought NTSC
machines would not suffer moiré using this subcarrier frequency<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Phase
alternation is applied on a line by line and has  burst blanking [Bruch]
sequence <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>   
Burst absent on following lines:-<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>   
    Fields 1. 5        1 to 8, 260
to 262<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>                  2,
6        263 to 270, 522 to 525<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>   
              3,
7        1 to 7, 259 to 262<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>   
              4,
8        259 to 262, 523 to 525<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This
may impact onto the servo’s as it creates a minimum field sequence of 4
frames in the servo lock<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Also
be interested in how old the PAL M tapes are and what stock they were recorded
on old tape do suffer moisture, and of course 420 and Chroma 90 had white
powder problems in the UK<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Again
interested to know if the USA had similar problems, was this not what killed
the Andy Williams show recovery<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>If
all else fails we could reduce the servo lock to tone wheel (I am sure there is
an Ampex word for it and recover the video at demod  or MATC out and externally
 correct and clean up the colour or should that be color. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Interesting
project with many options and needs researching if PAL M machines have now
disappeared<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Trevor
Brown<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>UK
Quad Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>   <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>
quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegrou</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>p.com
[mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary Adams<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 August 2009 19:11<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Quad List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [QuadList] Question about PAL-M Quad players<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I  installed a few TR-600 Pal-M machines in Brazil. 
Now, I’ve forgotten more than I remember (that’s a result of
something else I don’t recall)….<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The bandwidth would be about the same as 525.  The output encoding
is what is different, so there are a number of different boards required as I
recall (or don’t) </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>  The term MOIRE comes to mind.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The machines I saw were in Sao Paulo and Puerto Alegre.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards, Gary<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com
[mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>bill.spencer@northstarstudios.tv<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [QuadList] Question about PAL-M Quad players<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Millard,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I used to do a lot of work for Brazil and we would just make
everything in NTSC and transcode to PAL-M at transmission.  This was due
to so little equipment being available in the PAL-M format.  If the quad
tapes are actually in PAL-M there are some later model Ampex AVR-2 or RCA
TR-600 machines that can be made to play in PAL-M.  I have a working
TR-600 that I believe may have that format on the demod, but I would need a
PAL-M sync generator to playback properly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Bill Spencer</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>RF Engineering Supervisor</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>NorthStar Studios, Inc.</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'>3201 Dickerson Pike</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Nashville, TN 37207</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Phone 615.650.6000 ext. 6610</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Cell 615.445.5616</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'>Fax 615.650.6027</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com
[mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>millard
schisler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [QuadList] Question about PAL-M Quad players</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Hello to all,<br>
I am new to the list. I have spoken with Ted a few times and he has been very
helpful.<br>
I work as the Preservation Director of the Cinemateca Brasileira (Brazilian
Film Archives). <br>
We have a few thousand reels of 2 inch tape from early brazilian television
that we need to migrate. We know that the tapes are all PAL-M, which is the
early format of brazilian TV (now all is NTSC). I did see a Quad machine in the
States, but it was NTSC. <br>
Does anyone know of a machine that we could purchase in the States that would
play PAL-M tapes? <br>
I have someone that can work and fix machines, so even if it is not working,
this person might be able to fix it.<br>
I would appreciate any help.<br>
Thanks much,<br>
Millard Schisler<br>
Coordenador de Preservação<br>
Cinemateca Brasileira<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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