<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Very erroneous lead in the AP story.</div><div><br></div><div>AP got it wrong. Twice!</div><div><br></div><div>NPR got it right. The NPR story says "some tapes," not "videotapes."</div><div><br></div><div>It is ESSENTIAL to make the distinction that the (missing, lost, erased, whatever) tapes being that were being searched for are one-inch DATA tapes that had telemetry, biomedical information and the slow-scan analog video recorded on them.</div><div><br></div><div>Contrary to the wrong impression the AP writer is responsible for creating, first generation NTSC <b><i>videotapes</i></b> —call them "originals" if you will—of the moonwalk and other EVA events <i>do</i> exist.</div><div><div><br></div><div>They were sought and used in the restoration described today at the Newseum.</div><div><br></div><div>Some of these tapes were recorded closer to the scan converter, and others, like the NASA Houston tapes went through several microwave links, an Intelsat hop, and land lines to reach Houston, and then more landlines/microwave to get to CBS.</div></div><div><div><br></div><div>And as David C. pointed out, NASA sent some apparently first generation Quad tapes of the Apollo 11 Extra Vehicular Activities to a surplus auction where they were purchased, and have formed the basis of a program that will be compared to the results achieved by the NASA videotape restoration project.</div><div><br></div><div>Did NASA have access to the auctioned tapes for the restoration? </div><div><br></div><div>In hindsight, did NASA turn loose material it should have kept? Yeah. </div><div><br></div><div>Could it know that in 1969 or up to when the DATA tapes were re-used? That's arguable.</div></div><div><br></div><div><div>These were telemetry data tapes, and—as Dick Nafzger said this morning—were more for analysis if there was some kind of glitch or mishap. </div><div><br></div><div>NASA experts could "rewind" the telemetry and get some insight into what was happening at any given time, much like they did with the Apollo 13 incident. Once the mission was done... there wasn't a mission-critical need or reason to keep them... and at that time, nobody had a clue about what technology might be able to do with the slow-scan recordings.</div><div><br></div><div>And the news—released today—that a pair of Ampex VR-660's had been modified and set up at the Parkes tracking station to record the slow scan video by itself, triggered a search for those tapes. Unfortunately, those couldn't be found.</div><div><br></div><div>That tape set could have appropriately been labelled "Do Not Erase."</div><div><br></div><div><whew!></div><div><br></div><div>Ted</div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div>On Jul 16, 2009, at 3:46 PM, C. Park Seward wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Great lead in this AP story:<div><br></div><div>"<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; color: rgb(119, 119, 119); "><cite class="vcard" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: arial, verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(119, 119, 119); ">By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer </cite>– <abbr title="2009-07-16T15:17:53-0700" class="recenttimedate" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-variant: normal; ">27 mins ago</abbr></span><div class="yn-story-content" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 1em; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 18px; ">WASHINGTON – <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1247784277_0">NASA</span> could put a <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1247784277_1">man on the moon</span> but didn't have the sense to keep the original video of the live TV transmission.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 1em; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 18px; ">In an embarrassing acknowledgment, the space agency said Thursday that it must have erased the Apollo 11 moon footage years ago so that it could reuse the videotape."</div></div></span><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div><div>Best,</div><div>Park</div><div><br></div></div><div>C. Park Seward</div><div>Cell: 818-535-2747</div><div>Home: 949-679-1870</div><div>Visit us: <a href="http://www.videopark.com">http://www.videopark.com</a></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></div></span></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Jul 16, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Ted Langdell wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px; "><b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">From NPR:</font></b></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#999999" face="Verdana" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px;"><i><br></i></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px; "><span class="program" style="color: rgb(153, 153, 153); text-decoration: none; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; "><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=3" style="background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(153, 153, 153); ">Morning Edition</a>,</span> <span class="date" style="color: rgb(153, 153, 153); ">July 16, 2009 ·</span>An exhaustive, three-year search for some tapes that contained the original footage of the Apollo 11 moonwalk has concluded that they were probably destroyed during a period when NASA was erasing old magnetic tapes and reusing them to record satellite data.</span></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106637066">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106637066</a></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px; ">NASA has, however, offered up a consolation prize for the 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 mission — the agency has taken the best available broadcast television footage and contracted with a digital restoration firm to enhance it, so that the public can see the first moonwalk in more detail than ever before.</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px;"><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/hd/apollo11.html">http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/hd/apollo11.html</a></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px;"><br></span></font></div><div>The restoration is ongoing at Lowery Digital in Burbank and is supposed to be finished in September.</div><div><br></div><div>You can watch the 11AM EDT news briefing (at 8 am PDT) on the NASA cable, satellite or internet channels:</div><div><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html">http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html</a></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(46, 46, 46); font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; "><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-size: 100%; font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; font-weight: bolder; ">July 16, Thursday</strong><br><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-size: 100%; font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; font-weight: bolder; ">11 a.m.</strong> - NASA News Briefing on Restored Apollo 11 Moonwalk Video from the Newseum - HQ <strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-size: 100%; font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; font-weight: bolder; ">(All Channels)</strong><br><strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-size: 100%; font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; font-weight: bolder; ">1 p.m.</strong> - Apollo 40th Anniversary Roundtable - HQ <strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-size: 100%; font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; font-weight: bolder; ">(All Channels)</strong></span></div><div><br></div><div>There are other Apollo special programs this week:</div><div><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Breaking.html">http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Breaking.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Ted</div><div><br></div><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; 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