<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="font-size: 16px; "><b><br></b></div><div style="font-size: 16px; "><b><br></b></div><div style="font-size: 16px; "><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal; "><div>On Jun 14, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Grace McKay wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">The construction of this machine reminds me a lot of our FDL and Quadra telecines-details like the knobs and switches, the way the cards are built, etc. It looks like it came from the same design team...<br><br>grace mckay<br><br>ps- I wonder if any still exist in the USA?<br><br>Don Norwood wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Ted:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">In fact, not just the head but the entire transport seems to be the Bosch machine as in the pics below........<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Don<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></span></b></div><div style="font-size: 16px; "><br></div><div style="">Grace's reaction to this machine was much like mine—"Looks like an Bosch FDL telecine!"—when I stumbled on it </div><div style="">on the <a href="http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeosw1p/cti2006/id9.html">website</a> of former KNBC engineer and longtime Virginia director/production co. owner Bruce Braun.</div><div style=""><br></div><div style=""><img height="215" width="296" src="cid:25845722-6036-4955-A548-22C628470C1B"></div><div style="">so I went Googling for Bosch Quad machines, and found the details recounted below </div><div style="">(and which were previously posted under "Ampex/Toshiba and Quads made outside the US including Bosch--2.2MB of pix")</div><div style=""><font class="Apple-style-span" style=""><br></font></div><div style="">So how did a Bosch deck get into the US, and how does Visual/Allen fit it?</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">That's the story we'll be telling, with the help of Al Sturm, a former Ampex engineer who worked for Visual and later for Merlin Engineering Works.</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">The Fernseh BM40 photo that Don posted tonight is apparently from here <a href="http://www.broadcasting101.ws/colorvtr_1970.jpg">http://www.broadcasting101.ws/colorvtr_1970.jpg</a></div><div style="">and is one of a number provided by <span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Anselmo Roccaforte of Argentina: <a href="http://www.broadcasting101.ws/anselmo6.htm">http://www.broadcasting101.ws/anselmo6.htm</a></span></div><div style="font-size: 16px; "><b><br></b></div><div style="font-size: 16px; "><b>By Gosh, It's a Bosch:</b></div><div>Robert Bosch's Fernseh division made a limited number of quads through its long-time connection with RCA. </div><div><br></div><div>RCA provided licenses for <i>its</i> patents, and for the Ampex technology it acquired the use of through the "RCA Color for 'How Ampex did it" cross-licensing, but Fernseh was apparently limited in how many units it could make a year, tied the Ampex licenses to RCA, which made RCA's quads possible.</div><div><br></div><div>Here's a tube-type Bosch Fernseh BM20, the first Bosch Quad model which is pictured on </div><div>the <a href="http://www.fernsehmuseum.info/&ei=UnwlSv3HDpzyswP6sYGiBg&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%253Fq%253DFernseh%252Bmuseum%2526hl%253Den%2526client%253Dsafari%2526rls%253Den-us">Deutsches Fernsehmuseum Wiesbaden</a> website:</div><div><br></div><div><img width="640" height="480" border="0" alt="" src="cid:80ECA732-CF95-4B74-8C20-F55DAD255D05"></div><div><br></div><div>Does it seem to look like a brother to a certain line of Telecines that came decades later? The doors</div><div>have me wondering whether there was an air circulation and filter system that would improve head life</div><div>and reduce errant particle-caused dropouts.</div><div><br></div><div>Here are a trio of what the Fernsehmuseum website reports to be <a href="http://74.125.155.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.fernsehmuseum.info/magnetbandtechn.html&prev=/search%25253Fq%25253DFernseh%25252Bmuseum%252526hl%25253Den%252526client%25253Dsafari%252526rls%25253Den-us&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhikcdVg5HvYavZ81NopSbbWsswDdw">BCM-40 solid-state</a><a href="http://74.125.155.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.fernsehmuseum.info/magnetbandtechn.html&prev=/search%253Fq%253DFernseh%252Bmuseum%2526hl%253Den%2526client%253Dsafari%2526rls%253Den-us&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhikcdVg5HvYavZ81NopSbbWsswDdw"> Bosch quads....</a></div><div>and there's a <a href="http://74.125.155.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.fernsehmuseum.info/fese-bm-40.html&prev=/search%253Fq%253DBosch%252BBCM40%2526hl%253Den%2526client%253Dsafari%2526rls%253Den-us%2526sa%253DN%2526start%253D10&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhiTtkDd0PhHJTXHaks2pblPapjK8A">page about them</a>. They were introduced in 1967, if my translation of the Google translation is OK.</div><div><img width="640" height="480" border="0" alt="" src="cid:EB935771-280F-451F-82AB-CCA2CDEBE266"></div><div>They were introduced in 1967, if my translation of the Google translation is OK.</div><div><br></div><div>And a pair of RCA machines from the <a href="http://74.125.155.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.fernsehmuseum.info/magnetbandtechn.html&prev=/search%253Fq%253DFernseh%252Bmuseum%2526hl%253Den%2526client%253Dsafari%2526rls%253Den-us&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhikcdVg5HvYavZ81NopSbbWsswDdw">same site</a> for comparison:</div><div><img width="640" height="480" border="0" alt="" src="cid:79471406-D804-45CA-BE53-52743504B4DB"></div><div><br></div><div>The museum's page on the BCM40C reports the C model appeared in 1972:</div><div><img width="800" height="755" border="0" alt="" src="cid:EC96274C-D2FC-4E01-9225-6A157FC920ED"></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>and here's what's also said to be a Bosch BCM40 provided by Gunnar Mass, from a Wikipedia page about Quad:</div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#144FAE"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/</a></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadruplex_videotape" style="text-decoration: none; ">Quadruplex_videotape</a></span></font></div><div><br></div><div><img alt="File:BOSCH 2 ZOLL QUADRUPLEX BCM 40.jpg" width="450" height="599" border="0" src="cid:61D1FEE2-0CE4-45A1-B049-A2E93F95CA72"></div><div>Click here for <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/BOSCH_2_ZOLL_QUADRUPLEX_BCM_40.jpg">BCM40 High Resolution image</a> via Wikipedia</div><div><br></div><div><div>Note how the deck is upside down, á la Ampex AVR-1 and RCA TR600.</div><div>With the limited amount of room at the top, it looks like one would have banged</div><div>knuckles threading things, particularly around the capstan in the upper right.</div><div><br></div><div>The upper panel colors are gray and the control panel on the right of the deck</div><div>is noticeably different from the BCM-40C above. </div><div><br></div><div>No "winding knob" in the center of the panel.. </div><div>although there appears to be what could be one on the bottom row of controls.</div></div><div><br></div><div>It's asserted on this webpage (and several that copy this page) that no Fernseh (Bosch) units </div><div>were ever sold in the US. That may or may not be true in terms of "Sold."</div><div><br></div><div>However, I've seen what appears to be one on the <a href="http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeosw1p/cti2006/id9.html">website </a>that former </div><div>KNBC engineer, longtime Virginia director/production co. owner Bruce Braun has. </div><div><br></div><div>This photo is Bruce at KHOF-TV, 30, Los Angeles with the machine in question, </div><div>opposite the deck of a VR-1000 he's leaning on.. </div><div><img height="215" width="296" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:4FFA9728-4DF2-4293-9146-33A59FD98D47"></div><div><br></div><div>At some point, KHOF-TV also had a </div><div>VR-1200 w/sidecar and VR-2000:</div><div><img height="471" width="699" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:12D62D7C-CFF6-4C8B-A24C-641A35D9DB95"></div><div><br></div><div>Some of you might remember KHOF-TV as the </div><div>Reverend Gene Scott's flagship station for his "House of Faith"</div><div>broadcasts late at night? </div><div><br></div><div>But that's another story entirely!</div><div><br></div><div><div apple-content-edited="true"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">Ted Langdell</span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">Secretary</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">Skype: <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>TedLangdell</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">e-mail:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><a href="mailto:ted@quadvideotapegroup.com">ted@quadvideotapegroup.com</a></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span></font></div></div></div></div></div></div><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><br></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></body></html>